Email POP3 Imap etc..

[furry_cup]

Hi guys,

Ive set up a site for a company and we are going to switch hosting companies, therefore mail handling will be changed.

The clients are using outlook express, if they enter the POP3 details, will this make outlook move any emails onto their hard disk and off the server?

What i dont want to have to do is log into theis CP/Webmail and delete all their mail once a month.

ta.

 

[sn00p]

yes, pop3 downloads email. You will have to configure in outlook when and how often you want it to remove them from the server.

Personally I'd go for IMAP as it has far more benefits.

 

[furry_cup]

Supported Incoming Mail Protocols: POP3, POP3S (SSL/TLS), IMAP, IMAPS (SSL/TLS)
Supported Outgoing Mail Protocols: SMTP, SMTPS (SSL/TLS)

this is what i pulled from the Control Panel in the hosting. Is IMAP for incoming not outgoing?

What benefits are there form using IMAP? This is something you just select from the drop down box in outlook right? POP3/IMAP etc..

 

[sn00p]

Supported Incoming Mail Protocols: POP3, POP3S (SSL/TLS), IMAP, IMAPS (SSL/TLS)
Supported Outgoing Mail Protocols: SMTP, SMTPS (SSL/TLS)

this is what i pulled from the Control Panel in the hosting. Is IMAP for incoming not outgoing?

What benefits are there form using IMAP? This is something you just select from the drop down box in outlook right? POP3/IMAP etc..

IMAP is incoming.

With IMAP the mail is stored on the server. The big advantage here is that IMAP supports folders, so the server stores Inbox & Sent mail (plus whatever heirachy you may want).

As long as you have the login, you have access to all your email. If you're out of the office, no problem if you can get to the webmail.

POP3 only really supports one client looking at the mail box. IMAP supports many. All our machines at work have access to the technical & sales email addresses. When one person replies to an email the reply is visible to everybody....

POP3 is old and creaky, IMAP less so!

Only downside to IMAP is the reliance on the server - you can set clients up to locally mirror the server though if this is going to be a problem.

In a nutshell!

 

[furry_cup]

thats great, thanks for that, appreciate it.

Giving IMAP a go at the mo on my iMac to get a better understanding. Can only recieve messages and not send though, something's up

 

[sn00p]

thats great, thanks for that, appreciate it.

Giving IMAP a go at the mo on my iMac to get a better understanding. Can only recieve messages and not send though, something's up

You need to configure SMTP to send mail.

 

[furry_cup]

Ive done that somehow lol! got it working now.

Can you access this mail via the web then or do i need to purchase a .mac account?

 

[sn00p]

Ive done that somehow lol! got it working now.

Can you access this mail via the web then or do i need to purchase a .mac account?

Check if the host has a webmail server..... If not and you've got the ability to host a PHP site, then you could put up your own webmail using roundcube, which is one of the nicer webmail clients.

This is where using IMAP really comes into it's own, because it's server side (barring what I said earlier about caching) your webmail will mirror that on the regular email client.

http://roundcube.net/

 

[furry_cup]

thanks for that, yeah it has webmail, uses horde and squirrel, which is terrible!

Just signed up for the free trial of the .mac account. will check out roudcube.

 

[furry_cup]

hmm that looks pretty tidy! will probably give it a go when my .mac trial runs out.

I use Yahoo! beta normally for everything!

 

[sn00p]

Yah. It's nice!

Imp/Horde is just horrible!

Roundcube is easily as nice aesthetically as @mail with the bonus that it's free!

You don't need much to host it, PHP & mysql + some configuration job done.

(more complex if you need TLS because you need certificates and a unique IP)

 

[furry_cup]

can you clear something up for me please, With IMAP, I have set it up with mac mail and it works fine. I log into the webmail supplied by my hoster and the mail is there too. If i delete the mail from my mac mail, will it delete it off the webmail too?

 

[furry_cup]

Yah. It's nice!

Imp/Horde is just horrible!

Roundcube is easily as nice aesthetically as @mail with the bonus that it's free!

You don't need much to host it, PHP & mysql + some configuration job done.

(more complex if you need TLS because you need certificates and a unique IP)

its really nicely designed, looks really clean and fresh.

 

[sn00p]

can you clear something up for me please, With IMAP, I have set it up with mac mail and it works fine. I log into the webmail supplied by my hoster and the mail is there too. If i delete the mail from my mac mail, will it delete it off the webmail too?

Oh yes....

But just keep in mind that email is stored server side. You can cache it locally so the "last view" of you email account is stored on that "device" when you are offline, when you go back online your client will re-sync itself..so you can make it behave "like" pop3 but still get the benefits of IMAP.

IMAP is so much better than POP3.

Try having 2 imap clients open, delete or reply to an email in webmail and keep an eye on the mac mail client at the same time, it's pretty cool.

 

[furry_cup]

thanks matey! the active box shows all the activity!, pretty cool to see it all happen!

 

[Saundo]

IMAP is the way foward webmail and desktop without the POP3 complications.