So my bargain bin suggestions were about right? Saves T10 milking me for DLC on yet another game. No doubt over the next 12 months all the cars that are already modelled in 4 but were removed from the roster on Horizon will be added back in through DLC packs. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a 2013 release of FM5 on a new xbox with more tracks and some of the persistent issues resolved.