genuine parts vs pattern parts

[wilky19]

what's people thoughts on using non genuine parts

the main things i'm looking at using non genuine parts for

cambelt(gates kit)
water pump
thermostat
various gaskets

i know they are cheaper, but is it a false saving because i'll have to buy them again sooner

 

[caister]

IIRC the genuine Cambelt is a gates one
I have no idea about water pump
No problem using a non gen thermostat
Non gen gaskets should be ok depending on what there for?

 

[sideways danny]

pattern part quality varies. some are as good if not better than genuine, and some are made of cheese. You just have to pick and choose. I mostly know what pattern parts I'll use and what i wont

 

[wilky19]

pattern part quality varies. some are as good if not better than genuine, and some are made of cheese. You just have to pick and choose. I mostly know what pattern parts I'll use and what i wont

out of those parts ive mention what would you use genuine for and non genuine for.

 

[Gray]

What is QH part quality like?

 

[sideways danny]

gates cambelt kit
Renault water pump
First line thermostat

Gaskets, on an F4R, Victor Reinz gaskets for anything, but Renault are slightly cheaper so genuine

 

[sideways danny]

What is QH part quality like?

they dont make everything themselves. Pretty good on the whole, but i've had water pumps explode on nissans. Belts, thermostats, clutches are all fine

 

[Gray]

I am going to fit a QH waterpump LOL!

 

[Fred@BTM]

Quiton Chantelle ain't bad, all the non genuine boys buy off each other anyway (and the manufactures buy from them!)

 

[sideways danny]

as above. It's all about finding out what's made by who and where it's cheaper in a different box

 

[wilky19]

as above. It's all about finding out what's made by who and where it's cheaper in a different box

if only there was a list of this kind of info.

also where can "First line thermostat" be bought from andrew pages, gsf, eurocarparts ?

 

[sideways danny]

if only there was a list of this kind of info.

also where can "First line thermostat" be bought from andrew pages, gsf, eurocarparts ?

i wouldn't worry what thermostat you buy really, it's the simplest part in the world (and the most neglected)

 

[wilky19]

i thought that with them, just heard story of them jamming shut but i surpose that could happen to any.

also couldn't the same be said for the water pump seeing as its just a pulley connected to an impeller.

 

[sideways danny]

water pumps are funny. i've had all kinds go wrong, plastic impellars shearing (just say no to plastic!!!), bearings seizing, and a housing shattered and sent a viscous fan through a rad

 

[wilky19]

i think i'll get the gen one for the sake of messing around. just have to work a few more hours to pay for it.

 

[st3ve]

Have you sorted that knocking yet wilky?

 

[wilky19]

Have you sorted that knocking yet wilky?

yes and no. the valver engine is dead so i'm currently putting a f4r engine in.

 

[Fred@BTM]

birchdown had a brand new genune waterpump fail in under 24hours!

 

[wilky19]

birchdown had a brand new genune waterpump fail in under 24hours!

its story like this that make me thing save the 40 odd notes and buy a pattern part.

 

[sideways danny]

birchdown had a brand new genune waterpump fail in under 24hours!

its story like this that make me thing save the 40 odd notes and buy a pattern part.

it's things like that which make me not want to change pumps that there's nothing wrong with

 

[wilky19]

it's things like that which make me not want to change pumps that there's nothing wrong with

what do you mean by this

anyway i'm going to do the sensible thing and buy genuine

 

[sideways danny]

sometimes the old addage of, "if it aint broke, dont fix it" really does apply. I'm yet to see an F4R actually NEED a water pump changed. They must fail sometimes, but i've not seen it happen

 

[Fred@BTM]

don't buy genuine, you're mad!

 

[wilky19]

right.

i'm doing mine cos the engines on the stand still and don't fancy doing it when in car at later date and don't have a proper history on the engine.

 

[wilky19]

don't buy genuine, you're mad!

I'm so confused