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always though they'd be crap. Drove a car with them last month (did about 70 miles in it) and it was like standard but low. Shocked me how good they were. I think they're identical to PI now to be honest (which I sell)
fitted a new set 2 years ago to replace the too harsh apex, found the g max too harsh for me, currently running (afaik) standard springs, which suit me better.