H&R on Track

[Carlos Fandango]

From searching the boards it would be fair to say that H&R's are the prefered option for the road but how do they fair on track?

 

[fmp_]

mine worked a treat on track and at the 'ring!

 

[Ali]

Best alll round. Although they have the same problem as the FK's & Leda's.. The Rear spring is too short, Making perfect race setting up near impossible. Bilsteins are leagues ahead of everything...But for the money so they should.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

Best alll round. Although they have the same problem as the FK's & Leda's.. The Rear spring is too short, Making perfect race setting up near impossible. Bilsteins are leagues ahead of everything...But for the money so they should.

But they're Bilstein inserts.......are they not?

 

[S22 JGS]

they are indeed

 

[S22 JGS]

found them fantastic on track myself

 

[Fred@BTM]

Best alll round. Although they have the same problem as the FK's & Leda's.. The Rear spring is too short, Making perfect race setting up near impossible. Bilsteins are leagues ahead of everything...But for the money so they should.

shut up! FK's and LEDA's rears springs are way way wya shorter than a H&R

H&R's are good on track, not as good as Bilsteins, but still incredibly good

 

[matty w]

according to the bilstein rep the damping rates are exactly the same as h&r,how are bilstein leagues ahead when there the same thing

 

[Fred@BTM]

spring rate me boy

 

[Fred@BTM]

only the front is different, the rears are the same, Billies are cheaper for some odd reason

 

[matty w]

i'm sure he said the spring rate is the same aswell

 

[Fred@BTM]

not according the the MD of Bilstein UK

 

[Carlos Fandango]

not according the the MD of Bilstein UK

So should I get Billies or is that Billy's?

 

[Fred@BTM]

its upto you, makes no odds really, if you're going on track a lot, get billies

 

[Carlos Fandango]

its upto you, makes no odds really, if you're going on track a lot, get billies

Hopefully plenty of track days, but the car's used everyday for work.

 

[S22 JGS]

its upto you, makes no odds really, if you're going on track a lot, get billies

Hopefully plenty of track days, but the car's used everyday for work.

track days - save the cash and get something slightly cheaper then.

as im finding, track days can be limited when you are working full time. The best ones are during the week!

 

[izibizi]

and what springs are billies using on the front?

shorter, harder?

 

[Ali]

Best alll round. Although they have the same problem as the FK's & Leda's.. The Rear spring is too short, Making perfect race setting up near impossible. Bilsteins are leagues ahead of everything...But for the money so they should.

shut up! FK's and LEDA's rears springs are way way wya shorter than a H&R

H&R's are good on track, not as good as Bilsteins, but still incredibly good

Still not long enough. The boys at IF motorsport set up all the mini challenge cars. And all the scottish radicals...They know more than you sonny!!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

no one in scotland is more inteligent than an english man, i'm a hybrid so i have the best of 3

 

[Ali]

no one in scotland is more inteligent than an english man, i'm a inbred so i have the best of 3

Well...Tell me something i don't know.

 

[MarkM]

Best alll round. Although they have the same problem as the FK's & Leda's.. The Rear spring is too short, Making perfect race setting up near impossible. Bilsteins are leagues ahead of everything...But for the money so they should.

shut up! FK's and LEDA's rears springs are way way wya shorter than a H&R

H&R's are good on track, not as good as Bilsteins, but still incredibly good

Leda use eibach coils you can spec what spring rate and length you want.

Its all about the dampers anyway

 

[Fred@BTM]

Have you read this moths Pgti Mark??

i'll give you the short version

"Ledas are s**t"

 

[MarkM]

Have you read this moths Pgti Mark??

i'll give you the short version

"Ledas are s**t"

lol

Dont pgti readers own chavved up 1.0 saxos

When was the last time any of them cared about how good a set of coilovers are. Was it because they didnt wind down to -90mm.

 

[Fred@BTM]

well the review was written by the test driver from Track & Race cars

the very same guy who said we had the best handling 182 out of morego and BBPT with our own Bilstein suspension

so ner! (and it was setup by me!!! so double ner!)

 

[MarkM]

well the review was written by the test driver from Track & Race cars

the very same guy who said we had the best handling 182 out of morego and BBPT with our own Bilstein suspension

so ner! (and it was setup by me!!! so double ner!)

I just found a pic of the guy who set up morego and BBPTs car

 

[Fred@BTM]

LOL, i'm getting a bit like that!

FYI the rear setup was the problem

 

[MarkM]

LOL, i'm getting a bit like that!

FYI the rear setup was the problem

On what car?

 

[Fred@BTM]

172 cup with LEDAs

 

[MarkM]

And the problem was?

 

[Fred@BTM]

rear shocks apparently

 

[MarkM]

any more detail then that?

 

[Fred@BTM]

go buy the magazine!!!!! i'm not typing it all out!!!!!

 

[MarkM]

go buy the magazine!!!!! i'm not typing it all out!!!!!

I am to tight.

I might have to buy some Billies off you if the ledas get slagged in a proper test.

 

[Fred@BTM]

they'll only need a revalve i would've thought i still detest that rear spring setup

 

[MarkM]

they'll only need a revalve i would've thought i still detest that rear spring setup

I must admit I have been considering trying to get hold of the rear springs off the H&Rs. I dont think it is the best solution on the ledas.

What rear springs do your bilstein coilovers use and what poundage are they? Would you sell the springs on there own?

 

[Fred@BTM]

well it just so happens we have a complete H&R setup on the shelf

i'll double check the details for you Mark

we use the H&R setup with our bilstein kit

 

[matty w]

i'm not surprised it didnt handle,the way it had been set up the rear was on its arse