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Hellaflush Clio



Jason_E

ClioSport Club Member
  Elise, 530d
Been looking at videos for ages and I think I would like to go this way. Any ideas as to what parts I should get? I want offset, advice?

cheers

I'd go for something other than a Clio 182.
 
  Porsche Boxster987S
look no further than william from Germany. His sits superbly albeit a non sport.
 

Mickb

ClioSport Club Member
  van low and 1.6 16v
plus 1 paul. frasers was ok. but had ball ache getting it right with issues.

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  Mini Cooper S sport
^ people actually DRIVE cars looking like that?

I know I'm old but it looks bloody stupid!

Good luck to the OP, it's your car etc etc etc
 
  Black Gold Clio 182
I agree mate, i thought the first pic there was a trial fit of a rim, with no tyre, then i seen a tyre :|

Dont think its anything to do with being old, im 21 and think it looks shocking.
 
  182 Turbo Project
Why has it been moved? It's the start of a project?

Thanks again for all the responses, I can feel alot of hate already lol!

Coilies are wound down as much as possible considering I am still running 16s. Next step is to decide which rims to go for! Banded steelies would look pretty cool, but I have heard of some shocking horror stories about the welds going s**t? :(

Replies welcome as always!

P.S. Can this be moved back to the project section please.... hugs xxx
 
  More poke than viagr
Ive never heard anything bad about banded steelies. Its the way forward ;)

and mick, air is cheating lol!
 

Da

  Less
I'm with the Yellow one on this, I think it looks stupid but each to their own and all that :)

On a different note, isn't it illegal for the wheels to protrude out further than the bodywork??

Oh and the thread was moved as nothing has actually happened yet, you're just talking about doing it...
 

Da

  Less
Well, from doing a bit of reading courtesy of Google, it appears that wheel and tyre cannot protrude further than the arch.

Police Forum said:
You've had the answer to this on the thread that was locked, but to remind you, neither the wheel or the tyre tread must protrude past the body extremities, the "bulge" of the tyre is allowed to...
 
  Mini Cooper S sport
Well, from doing a bit of reading courtesy of Google, it appears that wheel and tyre cannot protrude further than the arch.

So it looks silly AND it's illegal. Awesome.

(Just my opinion of course)
 
  Mustang, S13, AX GT
ah, fair enough then. I never had any problems with mine when the rim stuck out from the bodywork it even made it through MOT like that, I guess I got lucky :)
 
It should be illegal to have stretched tyres though. Dangerous as f**k.

Stretch as such is not dangerous. Drift cars run a fairly aggressive amount of stretch and they are driven very hard. The issue starts when you have scene kids running stretched tyres with too much poke and the sidewall fouls the arch gradually damaging it until it fails. The other time when stretch gets the blame again is due to fashion victims running crazy amounts of camber causing the weight of the vehicle to load up the sidewall rather than the tread face. This causes it to heat up and eventually weaken followed again by complete failure.
 
Stretch as such is not dangerous. Drift cars run a fairly aggressive amount of stretch and they are driven very hard. The issue starts when you have scene kids running stretched tyres with too much poke and the sidewall fouls the arch gradually damaging it until it fails. The other time when stretch gets the blame again is due to fashion victims running crazy amounts of camber causing the weight of the vehicle to load up the sidewall rather than the tread face. This causes it to heat up and eventually weaken followed again by complete failure.

'Drift' cars aren't running their cars so low that the tyres are barely visible. It's inevitable that there will be added wear from tyres scraping the arches, no matter how well they're rolled. There is a much bigger risk of a blowout or some other kind of tyre failure if you're running a ridiculous stretch. Plus it looks s**t. I don't get it. I used to be into my dubs back in the day but never ran stretched tyres or stupid lowness.
 
If you're going to counter my comments then you need to decide what you're actually arguing about. Clearance, or the actual stretch being run because from that post you're contradicting yourself.
 
'Drift' cars aren't running their cars so low that the tyres are barely visible. It's inevitable that there will be added wear from tyres scraping the arches, no matter how well they're rolled. There is a much bigger risk of a blowout or some other kind of tyre failure if you're running a ridiculous stretch. Plus it looks s**t. I don't get it. I used to be into my dubs back in the day but never ran stretched tyres or stupid lowness.

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They look pretty low to me...
 
If you're going to counter my comments then you need to decide what you're actually arguing about. Clearance, or the actual stretch being run because from that post you're contradicting yourself.

I was actually addressing both points - clearance can damage tyres unnecessarily just as stretched tyres can be more dangerous. Either or, it's more dangerous than a properly fitted tyre. I don't see any manufacturers fitting stretched tyres on their cars - if there was any kind of performance benefit I'm sure major car manufacturers would know about it before some kid in an old VW.

This is one of the results if you google 'stretched tyres' :)

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Ummm...



They look pretty low to me...

Yeah of course there'll be exceptions to the rule. There's plenty of 'drifting cars' that aren't crazy low with stretched tyres too.

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Completely different cars for different purposes though. This lad in his Clio isn't going to be doing any drifting and he's also not confined to the relative safety of a track.

I think if someone wants to put stretched tyres on their car then fine, go for it. Just don't expect any sympathy if something does happen and you wreck your car, alloys or someone's face by crashing into them.
 
I was actually addressing both points - clearance can damage tyres unnecessarily just as stretched tyres can be more dangerous. Either or, it's more dangerous than a properly fitted tyre. I don't see any manufacturers fitting stretched tyres on their cars - if there was any kind of performance benefit I'm sure major car manufacturers would know about it before some kid in an old VW.

This is one of the results if you google 'stretched tyres' :)

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I think if someone wants to put stretched tyres on their car then fine, go for it. Just don't expect any sympathy if something does happen and you wreck your car, alloys or someone's face by crashing into them.

The reason manufacturers don't do it is ride quality, it's not an issue for dirfters, they stretch the tyre specifically to remove the flex from it and to give them a predictable handling response. If it was dangerous or that likely to fail as a result they simply wouldn't bother. The kind of loads professional drifters will be putting on the tyres and abuse as a result is considerably more than this lad in his clio.

As for your google pic that's a strawman arguement.
 
  More poke than viagr
I ran stretched tyres, with plenty of poke, plenty of neg camber and plenty of rubbing on the arch for about a year, and before that the lad before me ran the same. No damage or issues ever occured with running this much stretch and arch rubbing untill all 4 tyres were bold....used up completely. I dont know where your getting your information, but i have first hand experience and know a lot of people that have run stretched tyres for years and ive never heard anything about any blow outs or anything.

Drifters also use stretched tyres as it helps them break traction more easily and drift. But its not like your going to be trying to drift in a clio, and if it is flush then you arent going to be hammering it into corners....again i never had any problems :)

Mikes stretch is too much for me though, the white van.
 
  GTD, Lupo
Well, from doing a bit of reading courtesy of Google, it appears that wheel and tyre cannot protrude further than the arch.


This is the big problem with this argument. There is never one set answer. Different police give different statements and what confuses this even more is things like London taxies have a centre hub that protrudes out from the wheel arch by 1". You only need to look at the odd LDV to notice they are also the same.

Here is my old Golf, not as extreme as some but I drove it like this for a year and was pulled over twice (both times the police just wanted to look around the car)

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When I got pulled by the police they only checked to make sure i had no tyre wall damage coursed by scrubbing but i was allowed to continue as the tyre tread was under the arch.

BUT...

On the other hand i have heard of people being fined for the wheel protruding from the arch.

Paul
 
  More poke than viagr
I was pulled by the police, but they didnt say anything about my arch hitting the tyres, the stretch or the poke, only told me to get some proper number plates lol! (admittadly had different wheels on, but still had stretch, poke and sidewall/arch damage :p)
 


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