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Ive got em too - wouldnt go as far as saying theyre sh*t, but they certainly dont give the best ride quality, lol! Im considering a change to Eibach Sportlines, but still aint convinced that theyd give a similar drop.
But the Apex -40s certainly lower a 172 by the full 40mm - looks the business.
Ride is firm but they will give the best drop on just springs. PIs go lower but are shocking quality. If you want the best in terms of ride quality eibachs are the way to go but wont drop as low. If you want low with good ride quality handling and looks then get H&R coilovers.
if you cant afford the coilovers but want the springs try to go for the apex sports kit (springs and dampers), they make the ride better than just springs.
ive got the 60mm kit and its fine on my car, firmer ride but youd expect that, looks good.
[Edited by the_ferret on 04 September 2005 at 8:09pm]