How do I sort my lean?

[DevilDamo]

For a while now... when I'm doing track days, etc... I do get some rubbing when I'm turning heavy into a corner and it's sooo frustrating because... the car's only lowered 30mm on Eibach springs on the 16" Turini's with standard shocks...

(Enjoying a bit of cocking the leg)

How do I sort that lean so as in... stiffing it up so the wheels don't sink into the arch as much? When I was down at Rentech, Mike said that it shouldn't lean that much with those springs so I don't know what to do. It happens a lot at Castle Combe (Quarry corner... for those who know it) and it also happened at FCS, Rockingham.

A group of us are off to the 'Ring in August for the third time running and ideally, I'd like to sort it before we head out there.

 

[domjolly]

get decent adjustable coilovers,(and setup by mark fish, think loads of people on here swear by his work. although i have never had any work done by him) would be good if you do a lot of track days

 

[DevilDamo]

I wanted to try and avoid going down the coilover route due to finances, but if that's the only suggestion... then I'd have to look into it. As for track days/events... I'm probably doing them approx. 4/5 times a year as well as the 'Ring.

 

[alolympic]

refit your original springs?
you will find that the standard set up is quite adequate for you on track unless you are driving on the absolute edge

 

[JonC]

Cheapest option is to get rid of the heavy passenger!
Next get thicker anti-roll bar.

 

[Peperami]

Bodyroll isnt a bad thing.

 

[nathanH]

Roll is fine, dont bother with getting new suspension if you do the odd track day, spend the money on some track wheels and tyres.

My T has just as much roll as yours:

 

[Dan@SJM]

tbf i cracked my cup splitter on quarry! thats on coilovers and R888's.

 

[Mr R.]

Anti-roll bar and coil overs, if you make the dampers to hard then it can make the car skitish at least with a bit of body roll you know when you are on the limit.

 

[D4N13L]

Eibach springs can be a little soft

 

[.Kev.]

You dont need different shocks, just stiffer spring's. Standard, Eibach ect were all to soft IMO. Im thinking of getting some from this place www.dfaulknersprings.com.
If you still want it for road use though it might be a bit harsh.

 

[rich-6]

If you're going to fit stiffer springs you WILL need to uprate the dampers as they wont be matched

 

[.Kev.]

Thought he was already running uprated shocks. Didnt read he entire thread.

 

[Fletcher]

get decent adjustable coilovers,(and setup by mark fish, think loads of people on here swear by his work. although i have never had any work done by him) would be good if you do a lot of track days

^^^This. Get a decent set of coilovers fitted.

I was behind you for a few laps at Castle Combe, and was rolling around a lot into some of the corners.

 

[TimR26]

^^^This. Get a decent set of coilovers fitted.

I was behind you for a few laps at Castle Combe, and was rolling around a lot into some of the corners.

Has your car been on track and I missed it!?

 

[Ian_s]

Im suprised that your getting rubbage, im running sportlines with 888's on 15" 1.2's ET35 so they stick out the arches more than normal and get no rubbing even with lots of roll.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/Ian_s_uk/Bedford/DSC_1235.jpg

 

[.Kev.]

He's running 16's,

Shocks and stiffer springs will sort it, or as stated Coilovers. Even with coilovers though mine still leans a bit.

 

[DevilDamo]

Yeh so your pics... are similar, if not worse than mine whereas I got rubbing and you don't

I have noticed that on the NSF archliner, there's a little bit of plastic that was covering sharp edges to some metal. I think that bit of plastic use to catch so it has now been removed, which has now however exposed the metal :s Surely my springs (NSF especially) shouldn't compress that much!

 

[Cookson]

As has been said, you need to uprate to a higher poundage springs and stiffer shocks.

So coils look to be your best bet.

Give Mark Fish a call, see what they recommend

 

[Phil @ P5]

A few thoughts:

• 'Lowering' springs with no change in rate won't change the amount of roll, but you may find the effect detrimental if you start rolling on to bump stops.
• If you change to stiffer springs you need make sure you get the front/rear ratio correct. You should also have dampers designed for the stiffer rates. Springs tune the chassis, dampers control the springs. Remember, ARBs are springs and the same applies to damper rates when changing ARBs.
• Sticky tyres will increase roll. More lateral acceleration (g) will increase the roll angle.
• Lowering the car can increase the amount of roll if you go past the envelope to which the chassis was designed.

Phil

 

[DevilDamo]

This is a pic taken from Castle Combe this weekend...

The car was again scraping on the NSF. Now there can't be THAT much bodyroll... can there?