HOW MUCH SHOULD I LOWER MY CAR.

[f0xy]

On a 1.2 mate, springs will do the job just fine. Not worth breaking the bank on a suspension set up unless you're going to do a decent job tuning the car (also pointless unless you change the engine for a 2.0ltr). Like I said, I shall try and get some pics up once it's lowered.

^ F*ck that mate. Loads of people have just lowering springs on thier car and it does the job just fine. You dont need dampers at all. It's entirely down to how much the person is prepared to pay. Also im sure most of the 1.2 owners, such as me aren't going to make thier car for track purposes - so what does it matter? lol.

how untrue could this be? good on edde for stating the truth too, this guy knows what hes talking about.

i have a 1.2, and spent £450 on coilovers..... for the quality and for the adjusability. considering companies sell '60mm lowering springs'... which dont acctually even lower the car a true 60mm....

put it '60mm' on standard shocks and they will go in no time... then your paying out for new shocks every time they go... so by then you may aswell have spent the money on shocks to go with the springs in the first place, or coilovers.

 

[Limca]

low is the way to go.. listen to katie :rasp:^^ he speaks the truth

 

[DougClio16v]

Nobody that I know who has lowering springs fitted complains.

Plus Im not trying to make my car into a track day monster. It's a damm 1.2. Why spend a fortune on suspension for what? Will it make the car faster? No. Fine, blow 400 quid on that suspension set up on a car worth doing like a 2.0ltr, but it's money down the pan on 1.2 unless (like ive said before) you are going to spend lots of money tuning it into a track day car. IMO.

It comes down to personal preferance and how much you want to spend. But if it's going to be your only car for years to come then all good, but if you want to move onto bigger things then I think its a waste spending all that money on a small car when it could be going towards say a 172 or 182.. These are my thoughts and should not reflect what people do to thier car. It's thier money, I really don't care.

I'm not trying to cause a fight either, im just saying lots of people lower thier cars without adjusting anything else without any problems. And if my shocks go not long after I have fitted the 35mm springs then I will personally come on here and kiss your backside and repent my sins.

 

[f0xy]

Nobody that I know who has lowering springs fitted complains.

Plus Im not trying to make my car into a track day monster. It's a damm 1.2. Why spend a fortune on suspension for what? Will it make the car faster? No. Fine, blow 400 quid on that suspension set up on a car worth doing like a 2.0ltr, but it's money down the pan on 1.2 unless (like ive said before) you are going to spend lots of money tuning it into a track day car. IMO.

It comes down to personal preferance and how much you want to spend. But if it's going to be your only car for years to come then all good, but if you want to move onto bigger things then I think its a waste spending all that money on a small car when it could be going towards say a 172 or 182.. These are my thoughts and should not reflect what people do to thier car. It's thier money, I really don't care.

because its not a fortune when you sell the coilovers when you sell the car, people will ALWAYS buy them if they are looked after.

 

[edde]

Nobody that I know who has lowering springs fitted complains.

Plus Im not trying to make my car into a track day monster. It's a damm 1.2. Why spend a fortune on suspension for what? Will it make the car faster? No. Fine, blow 400 quid on that suspension set up on a car worth doing like a 2.0ltr, but it's money down the pan on 1.2 unless (like ive said before) you are going to spend lots of money tuning it into a track day car. IMO.

It comes down to personal preferance
These are my thoughts and should not reflect what people do to thier car. It's thier money, I really don't care.

Then again who with springs has tried proper suspension?

Yes will make the car quicker in the bends. As for money down the pan a 2.0 is down the pan money. Coilovers make the car handle better than springs ever could even with a usless coilover setup.

As for it being your preference yep but you've been stating springs are all you need.

No spring manurfactuere or most coilover places will have invested one hundredth of what Renault invested in making a suspension setup you won't do better without spending big.

 

[DougClio16v]

But I don't think the old codger or whoever buys the car after you will care. And if they would buy it if you put it back to standard, you would feel bit sh*tty really because you have put all that money into it and nobody wants the car.

 

[f0xy]

Then again who with springs has tried proper suspension?

Yes will make the car quicker in the bends. As for money down the pan a 2.0 is down the pan money. Coilovers make the car handle better than springs ever could even with a usless coilover setup.

As for it being your preference yep but you've been stating springs are all you need.

No spring manurfactuere or most coilover places will have invested one hundredth of what Renault invested in making a suspension setup you won't do better without spending big.

ditto!

But I don't think the old codger or whoever buys the car after you will care. And if they would buy it if you put it back to standard, you would feel bit sh*tty really because you have put all that money into it and nobody wants the car.

i would sell the car as standard anyway... i wasnt on about them being left on the car.

people will always buy second hand coilovers... say i sold them for £275-£300... theyve only cost me £150 quid.... how much will you fetch for second hand springs... fook all.

 

[Ryan k]

Nobody that I know who has lowering springs fitted complains.

Plus Im not trying to make my car into a track day monster. It's a damm 1.2. Why spend a fortune on suspension for what? Will it make the car faster? No. Fine, blow 400 quid on that suspension set up on a car worth doing like a 2.0ltr, but it's money down the pan on 1.2 unless (like ive said before) you are going to spend lots of money tuning it into a track day car. IMO.

It comes down to personal preferance and how much you want to spend. But if it's going to be your only car for years to come then all good, but if you want to move onto bigger things then I think its a waste spending all that money on a small car when it could be going towards say a 172 or 182.. These are my thoughts and should not reflect what people do to thier car. It's thier money, I really don't care.

I'm not trying to cause a fight either, im just saying lots of people lower thier cars without adjusting anything else without any problems. And if my shocks go not long after I have fitted the 35mm springs then I will personally come on here and kiss your backside and repent my sins.

Think your bit wrong there Because 2 of my cars had to have 4 dampers because they broke. and there where only lowered on springs 35mm

 

[DougClio16v]

F*ck it I give up. Consider myself owned. I'll keep my opinions to myself next time ffs. lol

 

[Ryan k]

F*ck it I give up. Consider myself owned. I'll keep my opinions to myself next time ffs. lol

You should watch what you say people will lay into you for it lmao

 

[Millsy]

lol, better than eastenders in here lol

i must admit you dont neccessarily need shocks or coilies etc for a car when all you want is the lowered look. it does aid the car through the corners but thats due to lower centre of gravity etc.

i agree with edde to a certain point about people with just springs haven't probably tried a proper setup, but i knew for my car i just wanted springs to get it lower and not worry about spending £700 on the coilies i looked at. in my case spending that sort of money on my car when im gonna change it next year is a waste, i just wanted it lowered and looking better while i own it.

although i do agree i wish i had bought shcoks at the same time too, as mine are now fooked and i need to get some shocks to match.

if i owned a ctr or a 182 or a beemer or any higher sought after car then i could justify spending the money on coilies but not on a 1.2 or my 1.6 for that matter.

each to their own though and if you want to go looooowww then coilies are the only way, for that lowered "look" then springs are fine

 

[jamesp24]

So is it going to be ok to get the apex 60mm kit shocks and springs for my car im not botherd if its a little bumpy.

I just dont want them to f**k up after 2 weeks.

 

[DougClio16v]

So is it going to be ok to get the apex 60mm kit shocks and springs for my car im not botherd if its a little bumpy.

I just dont want them to f**k up after 2 weeks.

Do what you like mate, it's your money. Just seem's you can't say anything on CS without getting b*tch slapped for it.

 

[Millsy]

So is it going to be ok to get the apex 60mm kit shocks and springs for my car im not botherd if its a little bumpy.

I just dont want them to f**k up after 2 weeks.

if you get shocks and springs from apex it will be fine cos your not f**king the original shocks. and yeah it'll be pretty bumpy lol

 

[jonnyRT]

iv had 60mm springs on standard shocks for about 30k or 4 years and its never failed an mot or given me any problems at all, to all the people that state shorter springs reck your shocks actually experienced this or just spend too much time reading shite on forums?

 

[DamoWales]

iv had 60mm springs on standard shocks for about 30k or 4 years and its never failed an mot or given me any problems at all, to all the people that state shorter springs reck your shocks actually experienced this or just spend too much time reading s**te on forums?

Just thought i'd say..

You are going to get ABUSED lol!!

 

[jamesp24]

Ballacks

 

[jonnyRT]

iv had 60mm springs on standard shocks for about 30k or 4 years and its never failed an mot or given me any problems at all, to all the people that state shorter springs reck your shocks actually experienced this or just spend too much time reading s**te on forums?

Just thought i'd say..

You are going to get ABUSED lol!!

for? just wanted to know whos had springs that have caused their shocks to break prematurely not just say that thats what happens when you get lower springs, im probably just in the minority of people who havent had their shocks muffed up to be honest. If not i doubt there would be so many people staing so , but like i said i just wanted to know whos actually experienced this. If that needs abuse then ill be scratching my head.

 

[edde]

iv had 60mm springs on standard shocks for about 30k or 4 years and its never failed an mot or given me any problems at all, to all the people that state shorter springs reck your shocks actually experienced this or just spend too much time reading s**te on forums?

It depends on the driver but lower springs will wear out dampers quicker.

My dampers I wanted chnaging at 50k as I was unhappy with them and that was stock springs with different springs I'd have had to change them even earlier.

Ask on here how many 182 etc have had new shock how many owners have changed there shocks for new ones with springs and can tell the difference you might be suprised that they'll all back me up.

 

[edde]

Dampers rarly fail they just get less and less effective (RS models excepted as there dampers do leak).

 

[shaun172mk1]

i had a focus lowerd 60mm handled miles better than my 172 but i could go over a empty fag packet without breaking a bone or two, id reccomend no more than 40mm with out decent dampers to match