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I'd Say this is the Nail in the Coffin for HD-DVD!



I dl a divx shrek3 which was 4.4 gb and it was superb...was litterally just the fim with no extras or even menus but still looked amazing imo

Chris

yeah it will look good its a cartoon the bitrate just isnt high enough to contain all the needed info especially for 1080p
 
  VaVa
How can it be! its 6GB!

Which is...

Oh the same as SD DVD!

Looked ok to me. Was 480p iirc. Which aint bad. What resolution are SD DVD's? and aren't they 4.7GB including all the bullshit extras?

Anyway, thta's not the point I'm making..... the point is, downloads are the future.
 
  VaVa
This was 720p. Just looked. Which is better than standard Phase Alternating Line anyway. The 480p version was 1.6GB.

Although I'll stress again for the pedants, the point I'm making is that dowloads are the future. Even now, messing around with little plastic discs is a bit archaic tbh.
 
This was 720p. Just looked. Which is better than standard Phase Alternating Line anyway. The 480p version was 1.6GB.

Although I'll stress again for the pedants, the point I'm making is that dowloads are the future. Even now, messing around with little plastic discs is a bit archaic tbh.

I agree.

Was it noticeably better than DVD?

Ive got s**t loads of points and Im just waiting to try something but theres nothing I want to watch that I dont already have! lol..
 
  VaVa
This was 720p. Just looked. Which is better than standard Phase Alternating Line anyway. The 480p version was 1.6GB.

Although I'll stress again for the pedants, the point I'm making is that dowloads are the future. Even now, messing around with little plastic discs is a bit archaic tbh.

I agree.

Was it noticeably better than DVD?

Ive got s**t loads of points and Im just waiting to try something but theres nothing I want to watch that I dont already have! lol..

I wouldn't say massively better if I'm being honest. I'm still not convinced I have my screen calibrated perfectly tbh....I'm constantly f**king about with it lol
 
  E90
TBH 480/1086/6969 HD Blu Ray, mega pixle tv's are good, personally I'm waiting for the 685746474 pixel uber telly with 5858585 gb's of internal memory,

WTF!!!! are you lot babbling on about its a television, one should be out socialising, and meeting people, not banging on about resolutions on the chav box. Losers!! ;) lol
 
  BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
always makes me laugh - people who start moaning about the conversation we're having, with no interest in the topic, nothing to add yet, feel like they need to look at the post and comment anyway. Surely you're the one who needs to be out socialising more!??
 
  VaVa
TBH 480/1086/6969 HD Blu Ray, mega pixle tv's are good, personally I'm waiting for the 685746474 pixel uber telly with 5858585 gb's of internal memory,

WTF!!!! are you lot babbling on about its a television, one should be out socialising, and meeting people, not banging on about resolutions on the chav box. Losers!! ;) lol

At 13:17 on a monday afternoon? Give over lol
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)
Northen cnut, ignore him.

He was never the same when WhippetRallyChampionship was taken off yorkshire TV.
Imagine that in HD..
 
  E90
That my friend was a sad day, same thing happened with the world ferret grroming championships, BBC replaced it with crufts, because apparently more (unts have dogs than ferrets :(

I'm only jealous cos i'm old school and still run a cathode ray LOL FTW!!
 
  VaVa
I would too, if it were true.

DVD picture quality is no better than VHS. It could be, but remember it was still limited by PAL or NTSC resolutions. There were lot's of reasons why DVD is better than VHS but picture wasn't one of them!

Analogue FTW!!
 
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  Nippy white cup
TBH I had watched a few HD films a couple of weekends back and started to think 'is it that much better'. But later I put a shrek style film on normal DVD (Surfs up I think....for Abi obviously lol) and it honestly looked like a copied DVD...colours were no where near as striking and the actually quality in general was pretty poor in comparison.

Chris
 
I would too, if it were true.

DVD picture quality is no better than VHS. It could be, but remember it was still limited by PAL or NTSC resolutions. There were lot's of reasons why DVD is better than VHS but picture wasn't one of them!

Analogue FTW!!

actually you are wrong the picture quality is better and some dvd's are better than others its all down to bitrates in dvd and teh amount of lines recorded in vhs only 250 of them !
 

Tom

ClioSport Club Member
  EV (s)
Saying that i watched starwars on sky HD and it looked cool, but the detail is so great the set looks uber s**t. The bit with the room to the side of the hangar with the red walls! PMSL!
 
  VaVa
I would too, if it were true.

DVD picture quality is no better than VHS. It could be, but remember it was still limited by PAL or NTSC resolutions. There were lot's of reasons why DVD is better than VHS but picture wasn't one of them!

Analogue FTW!!

actually you are wrong the picture quality is better and some dvd's are better than others its all down to bitrates in dvd and teh amount of lines recorded in vhs only 250 of them !

Go google it. You'll find you're wrong. The difference in picture was nothing.

I bet you think CD aduio is better than vinyl too?
 
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  VaVa
Saying that i watched starwars on sky HD and it looked cool, but the detail is so great the set looks uber s**t. The bit with the room to the side of the hangar with the red walls! PMSL!

That's where the biggest difference is for me, and where I'd be more bothered about HD, for broadcasting.

The variations in quality of the sky SD transmissions are shocking, but I've only noticed since I've had an LCD. CRT's did such a good job of cleaning everything up lol
 
  Monaco 172 2/468
I'm glad the 'format war' is pretty much over now, possibly most of us can look forward to enjoying the new technology soon, without the worry of it dying out hehe

As far as HD and SD goes, decent HD is loads better than SD, it's true, as said above, CRT's just mask the truth, just blurred things nicely so it looked like a perfect image. Put the two side to side, or flick back to SD and you'll suddenly wonder where all the detail went

As far as sky HD etc goes, older films will look a bit crapper won't they, as they are only upscaled\unconverted(can never remember the right one lol) versions

Also I have 3gb HD video's that look much better than the DVD, but I guess it makes sense as they are the correct resolution for these current tv's and no scaling is required. The difference between DVD and HD seems shocking on an LCD, but a DVD will look better standard on a CRT compared to an LCD tv (obviously discounting upscaling etc)


... obviously the above is part fact\part opinion based :D
 
actually you are wrong the picture quality is better and some dvd's are better than others its all down to bitrates in dvd and teh amount of lines recorded in vhs only 250 of them !

Go google it. You'll find you're wrong. The difference in picture was nothing.

I bet you think CD aduio is better than vinyl too?

hmm
what did you search for ? and i shall have a read
 
I'm glad the 'format war' is pretty much over now, possibly most of us can look forward to enjoying the new technology soon, without the worry of it dying out hehe

As far as HD and SD goes, decent HD is loads better than SD, it's true, as said above, CRT's just mask the truth, just blurred things nicely so it looked like a perfect image. Put the two side to side, or flick back to SD and you'll suddenly wonder where all the detail went

As far as sky HD etc goes, older films will look a bit crapper won't they, as they are only upscaled\unconverted(can never remember the right one lol) versions

Also I have 3gb HD video's that look much better than the DVD, but I guess it makes sense as they are the correct resolution for these current tv's and no scaling is required. The difference between DVD and HD seems shocking on an LCD, but a DVD will look better standard on a CRT compared to an LCD tv (obviously discounting upscaling etc)


... obviously the above is part fact\part opinion based :D


hmm you may find that they arnt actually hd just because they have a hd resolution doesnt mean its actually hd ! i can convert a SD recording into a hd resolution easily and it doesnt even upscale it
 
  Yaris Hybrid
Im in the "its good but not that good" camp.

DVD offered a good picture quality improvement over VHS but also no messing around with rewinding and fast forwarded, quality degrading over time and tapes getting chewed up etc.

HD DVD is a bit more questionable as it doesn't do anything that DVD doesn't aside from an increase in picture quality that isn't massively obvious from the Sofa and a typical sized TV. We know from all the gays on here talking about DivX compatibility with consoles that most people don't even buy DVD's and prefer illegal copyright infringed pirate versions that don't exactly have fantastic quality anyway.

Those that do buy DVD's are used to the cheap prices currently available.

I therefore don't see the HD market opening for a long time. People won't pay those prices for a HD movie. They don't put that high a value on quality. They might rent but buying is a different matter. I am of course talking about the majority of the population and not a few nerds/av geeks with 100" TV's and £1000 worth of high quality cables connecting them to the DVD player.

The general public will continue to obtain illegal copies for free or surf the bargain DVD's in Asda. HD is a long way from taking off and I think normal TV broadcasts will lead the way. It will eventually take over but it will be a long time.
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
When it finally sorts itself out (the market) I won't hesitate in buying an HD DVD/Blu-ray player. So long as the increase in quality is there going from DVD to HD it'll be worth it.

Since I've had Sky HD it's taken me a while to grasp and truly appreciate the picture quality of HD. Like SD, a lot of Sky's HD broadcasts are crap, but some are mind-blowing - the detail in the image and the 5.1 sound mix of Ross Kemp in Afghanistan makes me want to watch it over and over and over again.

And before anyone says that's not down to his little baldy heed either.
 
  Yaris Hybrid
When I buy one I will do so in the form of a PS3. I don't see myself buying hardly any disks but may rent a few plus I can play the few PS3 exclusives that interest me.

I would definitely NOT buy a standalone Blu Ray player though. I wouldn't use it enough to justify it.
 

dk

  911 GTS Cab
^^ how pissed are the people that have bought xbox hd-dvd players only for microsoft to switch to bluray.
Same could be said about the 40Gb PS3 and it's non-backwards compatability, as I know at least one person who has about 140 PS2 Games and 200 PSX games and can't play any of them. But your right, it's going to annoy a lot of people through it and it will also annoy all those people with HD-DVD standalone players too in the hope of that format staying.

Like I said, I'll sit and laugh a bit more before buying ;)
PlayStation 3 owners who don't have PS2 backwards compatibility may yet be able to enjoy the feature after a Sony executive hinted at its return.

At launch, all PlayStation 3 consoles boasted PS2 backwards compatibility - with the US and Japanese machines offering a hardware solution while the UK console featured software emulation.

However, Sony removed the feature in later editions of the console, including the 40Gb model currently on sale in the UK.

PlayStation network director Eric Lempell told EGM that the function could return for those PS3 consoles currently lacking it. "There are possibilities through technology and software emulation to make that possible," he said, but added that Sony has no "specific plans at this point".
 
  Monaco 172 2/468
....Also I have 3gb HD video's that look much better than the DVD....


hmm you may find that they arnt actually hd just because they have a hd resolution doesnt mean its actually hd ! i can convert a SD recording into a hd resolution easily and it doesnt even upscale it

Aye I know what you mean I did mean it like that, when I said about it being the correct resolution, even if it isn't HD, I think and don't write the right words hehe

But the file i'm on about is ripped from a HD source (HDTV I think) but it's just got a really low bitrate (3719), nowhere near like full HD, but still noticeably better than DVD for some reason. Must just be the scaling thing, as DVD's carry bitrates simialr to that also. Also, yes I erm copied this myself, purely for educational\research purposes :)
 
  BMW e46 320 Ci Sport
i imagine you'll get hd-dvd players and dirt cheap prices now on ebay. now get the matrix on blu-ray so i can start enjoying this hd-dvd business :_
 
Probably find everyone will start snapping up cheap HD-DVD players, sales of HD-DVD films will go through the roof and the film studio's all switch from Blu-Ray :) Rinse and repeat...
 


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