IK question

[Dazz]

Hi

Im thinking of getting an induction kit for my clio 1.4 rt phase I (92-K).

However, any of the kits i look at for this car say they are the 3 screw in airbox ones? Mines got four? Is my car just different or are there other IKs available.

BTW, mines the Carb version if that helps?

Thanks

Dazz

 

[steve_rt]

it wont be an induction kit as such then if you have a carbd clio, you need a bolt-on filter - K+N will prob do one for you,dunno about others?!

 

[N.D.Hill]

I have never seen a Clio of this year with a carb fitted.Are you sure it is not just a single point throttle body? Can you post a picture of the engine with the std air box fitted. Are the bolts holding it on all the same type and head size?

 

[Essex_Lad]

there should be 3 bolts and one screw! if there are 3 bolts then ur fine!

 

[Dazz]

Yeah theres 3 bolts and a screw.

Im sure its a carb cos ive got spark plugs instead of injectors???

I would get a pick but i havent got a digi cam

Thanks

Dazz

 

[BRUN]

spark plugs arent instead of injectors mate they both serve different purposes

if its 3 bolts and a screw then you have a single point (sometimes called mono-point) injection engine........code E7J

most people seem to have this

 

[patty]

yup bruns right mate u have got a carb, its a single point. 3 long bolts and one small screw, same as mine

patty

 

[Dazz]

Ok, i was just going by what one of my mates told me - guess that was a bad idea!!!

He said that i wouldnt have spark plugs as there should be injectors on the clio. I told him that there is spark plugs and showed him, so we assumed that it didnt have injectors?

Can someone explain a bit more about injectors, where they are, how they work etc

BTW, whats the difference between a single point carb and a normal carb? The carb looks the same as my old mk3 fiesta?

Thanks

Dazz

 

[BenR]

sparkers are to ignite the mixture inside the cylinder, injectors supply the fuel in meterd amounts.

You have single point injection, not a carb, a carb does not use any form of electronic or mechanical high pressure fuel injection. It uses air velocity to draw fuel of a miryad of indle/progressiona nd main jets.

If you take your air filter off and run teh engine, above the brass throttle plate (butterfly) you will see the fuel being injected.

Its called single point because it uses a simple single injector to supply the entire engine, as opposed to multi point which uses a single injector per cylinder, unless its a very high performance engine and can have 2 injecotrs per cylinder.

p.s. stop listning to your mate.

 

[patty]

u can always trust ur mates to give u good advice, like my mate who rolled his car down the hill with me in it and still insists and tellin me how to drive

 

[Dazz]

nice one

all is now clear

All i gotta do now is give the insurance company a ring to find out how much the IK would be on insurance.

BTW, whats better, a factory fitted immobiliser or a thatcham category two? Only ask as when i got the car i told the insurance it was factory fitted, but just found out its a Motorola Car Guara Thatcham 2.

Thanks

Dazz

 

[Dazz]

BLUDDY ELL!!!

Just phoned the insurance company and they want an extra £83 for a K&N!

Stuff that :-(

Guess il have to save the pennies!

Oh just out of interest. Is there anyway of converting the existing air filter to do a similar job? I was thinking of taking the ducting hose off from the engine to the filter (the one that puts warm air back into the filter) and adjusting the big air intake hose so that it sucks in air from the bottom of the front of the car?

Has anyone tried this with any success?

Thanks

Dazz

 

[Clio16vPaul]

Alot of people seem to think fuel injection doesnt enolve spark plugs?! your engine is the common one like everyone else said...

I did have a K&N on my Rt, but to be honest you would probably have as much luck putting a inbox filter on it ( look in demon tweeks etc, its a element) and just sorting a decent feed from under the car or the front of the car.

If your looking for induction noise then mayb drill the airbox, 1 say 40mm hole will let a bit of noise out, for gods sake if you do this make sure its on the OUTSIDE of the box not anywhere near the middle of the filter!!

Theres not much point moving that hot air pipe because it has a valve that shuts it off once the engines warm, so its not doing any harm at all.

you strictly speaking dont need to mention the elament filter to the insurance cos your only increasing the effieciency of the airbox, and you could just have iot to avoid the cost of replacing at each service blah,blah,blah...

Hope this helps....

 

[steve_rt]

id leave the airbox tbh mate, its pretty good as standard and withotu decent work and money you arent gonna be able to get noticably different results!

 

[Clio16vPaul]

I agree steve, but if he wants a bit of roar thats the only way( he never said that he did im presuming)

For the sake of about £30 the best bet is just to stick a K&N element in, i doubt you will get any extra ooomph but you know its in there for the long term, and it will suck as much air as the lump asks for / the intake pipe can offer

 

[Dazz]

okey dokey, guess il save the money and put it towards a nice exhaust system or the like??

Really im looking to get an extra 10bhp out of it, and im looking to spend upto £300 over the next few months.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Dazz

 

[rt172]

Yeah, the K&N panel filters do the job fine and are pretty cheap andll last for ever as long as you clean them.

 

[BRUN]

get a panel filter as above......you wont need to tell insurance about it, as its a replacement item

 

[Clio16vPaul]

If they sting you that much extra for the IK they are leable to sting you for the exhauts mate... check it out and see what they say.

The RTs go really well anyway....

 

[Dazz]

will the panel really make any difference to performance?

Im not fussed about how it sounds, but £30 for what seems to be a high quality air filter seems a bit much?

I had a look at the green air filter element and that seems to look a better deal at just over £30.

Any opinions?

Thanks

 

[Clio16vPaul]

In theory the element will allow more airflow than the paper filter, but in reality im not sure its going to make that much difference.

It basically will just stay cleaner longer then a paper one

They last a million miles or something, £30 for a million miles (well the life of the car!), or £8 every service.... thats the way i look at it