JMS RS2 inlet installation help on Clio 172 cup

[1985michael182]

So I have bought the inlet already.
It's the gen2 with the one peice manifold.
I know the map sensor plugs in on the left hand side but what plugs in on the right just after the throttle body.
Which breathers/ vacuums do I need or not need.
Ordered the coil pack relocation bracket and pms rocker cover breather plate.
any advice greatly appreciated

 

[imprezaworks]

@bloke

 

[bloke]

iat. you need vac for servo.

 

[1985michael182]

Which pipe is that on the original inlet ?

 

[bloke]

just to the left of the tb, plastic tube sleeved with rubber pipe onto the manifold.

 

[1985michael182]

So that vacuum need relocation to the hole just after the tb on the jms

 

[1985michael182]

I can bin the acoustic valve and carbon can thought can't I?

 

[1985michael182]

Also previous owner had it on a ph1 so needed to cut/drill for an extra sensor which I don't need so I'm going to make an ally plate and panel bond it on to cover the holes

 

[bloke]

Don't know where any of the holes are on the jms sorry as never done one.

Pcd on the throttle body is different so you'll ha e to sort that out as well unless you want to convert to cable throttle?

 

[cs_dave]

as you look at it for a ph2

map senser is on the left
ats is top right
the brake vac front centre underneath

 

[barnesautos]

If you zoom in - as dave has said , blue pipe in pic centre goes to the servo pipe connection

But as you can see on my Ph1 with the RS2 inlet - my troubles were to achieve additional outlets for the idle valve and vac take off for the fuel pressure regulator . You have it easy [emoji23]

 

[1985michael182]

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If you zoom in - as dave has said , blue pipe in pic centre goes to the servo pipe connection

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But as you can see on my Ph1 with the RS2 inlet - my troubles were to achieve additional outlets for the idle valve and vac take off for the fuel pressure regulator . You have it easy [emoji23]

Yes I bought mine from a guy with a ph1 so I have to block 2 holes up for those extra bits.

 

[1985michael182]

What's ats stand for? Hope that's not a really dumb question

 

[1985michael182]

Brake vacuum just connect from centre lower hole up round to the origional pipe

 

[1985michael182]

And that's it?
Bolt throttle body and plug in
Air filter on
Fuel rail on done?
Read somewhere you need to turn some injectors around?

 

[bloke]

you've got to sort out the throttle body mount as it's different for the phase 1.

 

[1985michael182]

you've got to sort out the throttle body mount as it's different for the phase 1.

In what way?

 

[1985michael182]

Also what's ats?

 

[barnesautos]

Also what's ats?

Air Temperature Sensor

 

[barnesautos]

In what way?

In this way @1985michael172

 

[bloke]

like wot he sed up dere...

 

[1985michael182]

The inlet came off a ph2 172 originally and the guy I bought it from had it on his ph1.
I'll take a picture of it tomorrow at work and post it on here so you can have a look at it

 

[1985michael182]

Also I'm fitting this to a ph2 172 cup

 

[gambit]

Step by step guide anywhere to help you?

 

[1985michael182]

Iv looked and can't find anything

 

[barnesautos]

Iv looked and can't find anything

It's not something that someone will do imo , as these are few and far between . But I'm happy to help with any questions .
Lots of info on here from fellow chaps who are in the know [emoji1303]

 

[1985michael182]

I might do a guide then as I go along to help anybody else.
Waiting for pms breather plate and coil relocation plate

 

[Coops Mk1]

should be relatively straight forward, if its been on a phase 1 and phase 2 then just bolt her up, connect what you have to it in a logical fashion and block up any holes left

mine was similar, been on both but most recently on a phase 1 and I fitted it to phase 1, was dead easy just bolted it on and connected up the pipes it cam with to the services on the car they fell close to.

 

[1985michael182]

This is what I have

 

[1985michael182]

Once fitted was thinking of EFI for mapping. What sort of power? 190ish?

 

[barnesautos]

Christ , it's got a big hole where the idle valve went [emoji15] . Looks like no resale thought went into that when they did that lol. That'll need sealing . Good luck with that .
Or I spose you could just put an idle valve off a Ph1 to seal it up .

 

[barnesautos]

Once fitted was thinking of EFI for mapping. What sort of power? 190ish?

I'll let you know when I have mine on the rollers .
If your not to far away you can get down to the SRR day TimRS is organising in October [emoji1303]

 

[1985michael182]

I'm going to fabricate 2 alloy plates and use bmw panel bond to glue it on to seal both holes

 

[Coops Mk1]

ah Christ that's been butchered, mine uses a small hole and a adaptor tube off the idle valve, didn't have the valve bodged directly onto the manifold!

mine ran 193bhp and 160lbft ish iirc on stock engine and exhaust manifold. planning to 182 exhaust manifold and 197 cam it with group n timing and remap that early next year

 

[barnesautos]

ah Christ that's been butchered, mine uses a small hole and a adaptor tube off the idle valve, didn't have the valve bodged directly onto the manifold!

mine ran 193bhp and 160lbft ish iirc on stock engine and exhaust manifold. planning to 182 exhaust manifold and 197 cam it with group n timing and remap that early next year

That's why I did what I had to do to get mine running without touching the manifold itself . Resale will be plug and play if it's for a Ph2 owner .
Mines running 438 cams timed up to GrpN and mapped .
As I've mentioned I'd like to to a nice healthy figure on the rollers , I'll be sceptical thou , as some seem to make more than others .

 

[Coops Mk1]

ai tbh RR is never a great base for real world performance, but if it goes well gives you something to shout about!

all I know is the car feels better on track with the RS2 than it did without, power spread is better, use gears for longer even if outright power isn't that much up

 

[barnesautos]

ai tbh RR is never a great base for real world performance, but if it goes well gives you something to shout about!

all I know is the car feels better on track with the RS2 than it did without, power spread is better, use gears for longer even if outright power isn't that much up

Totally agree , been told it goes well , and I think it does . But as you've said if it feels fast it's a hoot .

 

[1985michael182]

So I have a ss toyo sports 421 manifold wrapped. Decat and straight through to back box. Then this inlet aswell. I'm hoping for around 195

 

[bloke]

unless it's an optimistic dyno then with the toyo manifold you won't see over 190bhp.

 

[1985michael182]

It a s**t manifold?