lol agree, i bought a 172 off a lad on ere, i paid £2600 monaco blue 02, few things wrong but i read up on it from what he posted on here, nowt mechanical just electrical and climate control issues, all in all a decent buy. I looks the tits and goes like stink. Just come out of a golf gttdi, so it is squeeky and tinny compared to that, but pulls like nothing else i have drove. Think all small cars are tiny and squeeky...