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k-tec group n ecu remap
- Thread starter OLLZIE
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That remap probably won't work....
....He hasn't switched the laptop on
:quiet:
Looks good though.
....He hasn't switched the laptop on
:quiet:
Looks good though.
that ktec one in the first post is still just another generic map though..
prob about as much use as a superchip.
only way for a decent map is to have it properly setup for your car via rolling road then on the road to fine tune bits.
every engines different and these 172/182 engines seem to vary so much anyway.
important bit is finding a decent mapper though.
prob about as much use as a superchip.
only way for a decent map is to have it properly setup for your car via rolling road then on the road to fine tune bits.
every engines different and these 172/182 engines seem to vary so much anyway.
important bit is finding a decent mapper though.
It is a generic map and as said is no different to a superchip in that respect.
It is strange how people took the piss out of superchips and the gains available from them. But as soon as "Group N ECU" remap is mentioned everyone wants one.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but a superchip vs. a "group N ECU" is no different?????
I have also been told that a generic map will be 95% there and custom maps do not gain that much.
It is strange how people took the piss out of superchips and the gains available from them. But as soon as "Group N ECU" remap is mentioned everyone wants one.
Someone correct me if I am wrong but a superchip vs. a "group N ECU" is no different?????
I have also been told that a generic map will be 95% there and custom maps do not gain that much.
I was told by Nick @ Hillpower that with the mods I have ( IK, Zorst, Inlet) the GrpN ECU will be fine. It was mapped around a car with IK and exhaust. The improvements of a custom map would be very little, but mod the engine any further ( cams etc) and you'll be needing a custom remap.
He said "There's not much point in getting a custom set up unless your going to start taking it to bits." lol
These maps are tried and tested and a decent 'off the shelf' map which has been extensively researched can be as good, if not better, than an average custom map.
He said "There's not much point in getting a custom set up unless your going to start taking it to bits." lol
These maps are tried and tested and a decent 'off the shelf' map which has been extensively researched can be as good, if not better, than an average custom map.
MarkM said:
yes a group n ecu will be 99% same as superchips i would think.
Also yes a gorup n . superchiped ecu will be 95% same as a personal remap.
There is not much more you can do to a modded car comapred to a std car, unless it has had massive engine work done.
A remap/reflash/gorup n ecu/superchip are all the same thing.
The only different way of doing it is to have it on a RR and SLIGHTLY alter the peramiters to sute that particular car, and as said there is still a limit to that.
So all in all thay will all do the same jobs as each other,
if peeps want to pay more for a personal remap they are mad, considering they will be buying fuel from diff petrol stations diff areas of the country octane will change etc etc.
i personaly carnt see the point of spending the extra cost of a dyno remap to a normal superchip or group n ecu/remap.
Davey182 said:
but thats the thing.. you want it more than ok..
if everyone wanted just 'ok' we'd all have 1.2's with 15 quid budget tyres.
but we dont.. we want quick cars that handle well..
the standard map is a map that its for every one.. it has to take into account certain factors and make a compromise and be best map for performance/consumption/reliability/etc on every engine.
a generic remap will alter some of these but still it has to cater for EVERY engine.
a custom remap is specific to YOUR engine.. every engine is different., especially with the renaultsport shitely made inlet's. so its not having to make as much compromise.. its just getting the optimum out of your engine.
it would still run ok on someone elses engine but they may be able to get better results from their own remap.
if your getting a remap you may aswell get the inlet matche too for 200 quid (gdi/awt/hillpower) and you should see some nice gains.
but its all down to cost. proper remaps cost around £400 by a decent mapper.
chips/generic remaps cost more like 200?
you may not gain much more in terms of power from the full live map over the grp n remap
could maybe gain a couple bhp, but you may be able to get it to drive smoother, pull cleaner, or maybe be more fuel efficient. depending on engine. at the end of the day, the standard ECU has a compromise that has to work with all engines, a remap tries to get a bit more power, but still has compromise to work with all engines, a full personal remap is going to have very little compromise, just getting the most power it can out of your engine..
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RSTuning
ClioSport Club Member
R35 GTR
A std. ECU mapped properly will give excellent gains. I would go so far as to say you will NOT notice a difference on the road against a live remap. Don't forget there are good and bad of both so at the end of the day it depends how much you feel you need a "personal" map. If you want to let people feed you crap about "gineric maps are crap" then fine but in my experience they can sometimes be better if you know what you are doing. Any changes can be incorporated into the "gineric map" including turbos, cams etc....
Paul
Paul
RSTuning
ClioSport Club Member
R35 GTR
MarkM said:
I am unable to live map so it would be an OBD download, mod then upload back to the car. Price will be £275. For a turbo the price would be different as lots more work is involved.
Cheers
Paul
Http://www.rstuning.co.uk
pmurray said:
but thats the thing.. you may not NOTICE the couple of extra bhp from a proper map (over a generic map being flashed), but your car could be running a hell of a lot better, and using the extra power alot better, and being more efficent on fuel as its setup for your exact air flow/fuel pressure/and all the other variables on your engine. especially if you get the inlet manifold match.
at the end of the day you get what you can afford.
if you want a grp n/ superchip/ fastchip etc generic map designed on somebodys engine you get one. could be running rich at points/lean at points/ ignition timing could be out at points. anything.. you dont know unless you get it checked out properly.
if you want a proper remap to get the best possible gains and efficeiency/reliability from YOUR engine, you get one.
pays ya money, takes ya choice.
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