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Keeping ABS on 182 with mk3 rear setup??



ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
So a couple nights ago on the way to another member, the car basically s**t it self.. Im very lucky that the only damage done was to the car and not me.

I heard a couple huge bangs then coasted in to a side road, the whole n/s assembly was hanging on by one bolt which I think was also snapped and was basically just resting on it. As you can see the caliper had spun 90deg. Then on the way back home on the back of the truck the whole thing came off and the car rested on the wheel. I was told he did the strap like this for this wheel because he couldnt do it the normal way or something (not exactly how he said it) all other wheels were done normal and theres no damage to the arch.

At midnight down a narrow one way street with just enough space for the recovery truck, I went and found an old jack in the shed and luckily had just enough tools in the car already to get the wheel and hub off so we could try and get it off and onto the drive with 3 wheels, fortunately the 630lb asts held up the rear and there was enough space to get it home safe, the drive is quite steep which was a slight mission but it was more that it was midnight down a busy residential street and probably a lot of pissed off neighbors but theyll live.

So first thing first, speaking to the other member the rear 10mm spacers behind the stub are being binned, as he was telling me hes seen this problem happen before on track and a lot worse happened to them. I always thought how can those 4 little bolts hold up the whole wheel crashing around in pot holes and such.. Obviously its not exactly strong. Im going to put things back to normal bar the spacers as its still on 3 wheels jacked up but its got me thinking of the mk3 setup, it seems stronger and the stub has the thread so no counter sunk bolts and nuts but also the better caliper and slightly bigger bearing, nows the time to do this and its an inexpensive mod. I just want to feel safer as right now I dont have much confidence in the car as you can imagine, Ive had a driveshaft snap mid corner as well which again luckily didnt do any other damage.

The only thing is the abs sensors and maybe rings as I 100% want the abs. If you see the picture down the page, theres the thread for the disc shield which a bracket holding the sensor could bolt to. But I have no clue if its something that can be done (without ££) And will run the standard setup like how it is from factory, its just a consideration!


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ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
@1985michael182 Yes mate, was very lucky it managed to rest on the snapped bolts

Quite impressive how the caliper ended up facing up..

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Very lucky that the wheel stayed on (it was just resting on the studs) for me to coast to a safe place.

Wrote about it here:

Im 100% going to do the mk3 setup, Ive ordered the hubs and will then just check that the abs sensor can be mounted and the abs ring also fabbed to fit, the 182 ring is larger so will need a spacer of some sort, all seems doable from the pics.

Today I took the spacers off and put everything back to normal, the stub axle isnt damaged or anything and the wheel span straight and true. This has been a set back but Id rather be safe than sorry.
 

ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
Ive since bought the mk3 hubs and discs and its 100% going to work with only some mild fabrication, but I dont think will be getting it down for a little while with the lock down.
 

ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
@1985michael182 Pms 10mm with a toe shim and nope. Tell me this, how much torque would have to go through a 12.9 cap head for the head to snap off? All 4 of them for that matter?
 

ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
Well I mean in the mk3 setup it doesnt use 10.9 countersunk so it should be 10x stronger with better bolts!

I could well be a pothole(s), It doesnt help I have 630lb springs on the back. It went bang twice in a short time although the caliper spun 90 deg so not sure what happened when.
 

ZachB

ClioSport Club Member
  182
Thanks thats cleared things up for me. I want to know more about strengths of metals as I keep wanting answers about this sort of thing
 


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