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Chocolate Bar™
omex 600 would be about £1,000 fitted which i wouldnt call 'cheap' myself. in fact id actually call it a 'significant amount.' you can then spend £650 on the cams, and about £500 fitting them. so its starting to add up. unless you went for a milder cam, and then a basic remap but then your limiting the results you can achieve.
if i had the money i almost certainly would go for it, but cant justify it at the mo.
if i had the money i almost certainly would go for it, but cant justify it at the mo.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
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Omex 600 is only about £500-600 and you'd probably not end up paying for mapping and RR time as part of an inlet, cams and ECU package deal... yeah, they aint cheap and might be over kill for just cams, but they are a great ECU... especially when OMEX upgrade the Eprom for you
i think the omex is £600 on its own?then theres loom and sensors
Omex 600 is only about £500-600 and you'd probably not end up paying for mapping and RR time as part of an inlet, cams and ECU package deal... yeah, they aint cheap and might be over kill for just cams, but they are a great ECU... especially when OMEX upgrade the Eprom for you
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£600 is the cost of the hardware. You need a new loom and time to wire that loom in. You also need ALOT more time then just a few hours on the rollers as you have no base settings for your map.
The mapping will be included in the price of the package which is why you arent getting it for free. Tuners arent charitys and they definately arent cheap.
What was the OMEX eprom upgrade for?
As for the question on cams speak to BenR he wont feed you with bullshit and will give you an informed opinion on the best cams for your needs.
In fact speak to all the tuners and see who you "believe" knows what they are talking about.
I have also been told Nick at Hillpower knows his stuff but have no personal experience of him.
Omex 600 is only about £500-600 and you'd probably not end up paying for mapping and RR time as part of an inlet, cams and ECU package deal... yeah, they aint cheap and might be over kill for just cams, but they are a great ECU... especially when OMEX upgrade the Eprom for you
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£600 is the cost of the hardware. You need a new loom and time to wire that loom in. You also need ALOT more time then just a few hours on the rollers as you have no base settings for your map.
The mapping will be included in the price of the package which is why you arent getting it for free. Tuners arent charitys and they definately arent cheap.
What was the OMEX eprom upgrade for?
As for the question on cams speak to BenR he wont feed you with bulls**t and will give you an informed opinion on the best cams for your needs.
In fact speak to all the tuners and see who you "believe" knows what they are talking about.
I have also been told Nick at Hillpower knows his stuff but have no personal experience of him.
yeah nick does know his stuff his downfall probably is that he's too honest and some people hate to hear the truth
no idea, but it makes no difference though, all they are is cat cams.
ECU was upgraded because of an idling/running issue in certain weather conditions and temps... no idea why it's not been known about before, don't have a clue how long these things have been out, but it's been upgraded and it's running amazingly smooth now.
googled Omex 600's and 1st page that comes up is Yozzasport, over £600 for the ECU, 2nd place comes up £545, I reckon you can easily get one for £500 new if you look about, cheaper off Ebay.
For cams I'd just go see someone that can map the stock ECU though as has been said, Chip Wizards is probably the best I've seen from an RR and 1/4 mile results perspective.
heard that from a few 'experts', however if you look at the job Ste at Port Formance did on Gaz' Nana Hybrid it made an extra 10+bhp iirc from the before and after and it's a f**king animal now, will easily keep up with mine!
Dirty E91
GDI don't use the Omex with their standard cams package anymore:
http://www.greydevilindustries.com/products/product.asp?id=26
http://www.greydevilindustries.com/products/product.asp?id=26
was going to say, ja.jack is talking about the F4 as it is CNC finsihed, the F7 is plain cast and not as good in stock trim.
However, if that were the case then i wouldnt see these sort of flow gains with JUST a valve seat job and shortside blend.
Inlet
Blue is stock head with just CNC valve job, and the green is the older traditional spec stock valve ported head. As you can see, upto lifts of 0.35" or 8.9mm the VJ only outperforms the ported head....and since the stock engine only lifts up to 9,9mm your pretty much quids in for cheap flow gains since there is no extensive porting to do, thus no labour.
Ex
Blue is CNC valve job on ex, green is stock ex, but the gains are even better.
This is without even any porting bar a short side blend into the new VJ which is what i've been spending alot of time developing.
So IMO, its worth doing the new valve seat design rather than full headwork on midly tuned motors. New peak flow fully modified figures are now substantially higher than previous work.
However, if that were the case then i wouldnt see these sort of flow gains with JUST a valve seat job and shortside blend.
Inlet
Blue is stock head with just CNC valve job, and the green is the older traditional spec stock valve ported head. As you can see, upto lifts of 0.35" or 8.9mm the VJ only outperforms the ported head....and since the stock engine only lifts up to 9,9mm your pretty much quids in for cheap flow gains since there is no extensive porting to do, thus no labour.
Ex
Blue is CNC valve job on ex, green is stock ex, but the gains are even better.
This is without even any porting bar a short side blend into the new VJ which is what i've been spending alot of time developing.
So IMO, its worth doing the new valve seat design rather than full headwork on midly tuned motors. New peak flow fully modified figures are now substantially higher than previous work.
its still nearly a grand once youve brought sensors and loom
yeah, but I did say it's probably overkill for just cams, but it's deffo worth doing if your going to go further than that... plus I'd buy one off ebay, go for much less on there with loom etc. Cheaper than a basic DTA anyway, I was quoted £1500 for one of those including setting up and mapping with all sensors and wiring done
