Manual Steering Rack

[@Josh]

Does anyone run a manual steering rack?
Before people say it's to hard and not worth it, I use the car just for track and is trailered around everywhere.
I am racing the car next year and I keep having issues with my power steering at the minute so think I might just bin it all off and go manual see how it is...
Peoples thoughts would be good also if you do do it what rack did you use?
Thanks Josh

 

[katana2]

I've done two track with manual sterring.
I lovely but its so hard

 

[barnesautos]

Epas it , get the best of both worlds . And you can still use your Pas rack just looped .

Take a look in here
http://www.cliosport.net/index.php?...or-EPAS.-What-fittings-have-you-used?.772015/

 

[@Josh]

I've done two track with manual sterring.
I lovely but its so hard

would you say to hard or is it managble? what tracks did you do it at?

 

[@Josh]

Epas it , get the best of both worlds . And you can still use your Pas rack just looped .

Take a look in here
http://www.cliosport.net/index.php?...or-EPAS.-What-fittings-have-you-used?.772015/

thought about this but seems expensive for what it is...correct me if i am wrong and again my current PAS is knackered it think but we shall see

 

[barnesautos]

thought about this but seems expensive for what it is...correct me if i am wrong and again my current PAS is knackered it think but we shall see

Only you can tell if using a manual rack will be worth it . Cost against usefulness.
For some people it may well be ok , as for me I'm Epas-ing

 

[Chambers_RS]

I'm in a similar boot to you @Josh

Can't make mind up on steering so I'm gunna fit the DCi manual rack and give it go. Least then you can jump to EPAS as when.

I fitted a manual rack to my track Ibiza and loved it. Was hard around town but shift it was good. Running too much camber tho made it very snatchy if the weight shifted to much, which could be hard catch when really pressing on.

 

[@Josh]

@Chambers_RS have to let me know what it is like.
What's your plan just by a DCi manual rack and fit it take all the unnecessary stuff out and see how it goes?

My Clio is used just for track and will be racing next year, my only worry is that it's going to be tight say around 20mph corners or sharp S bends for example

 

[Chambers_RS]

@Chambers_RS have to let me know what it is like.
What's your plan just by a DCi manual rack and fit it take all the unnecessary stuff out and see how it goes?

My Clio is used just for track and will be racing next year, my only worry is that it's going to be tight say around 20mph corners or sharp S bends for example

Yeah I'd just fit the rack and remove the rest.

But I have same concern as you, don't wanna ruin the car by making it worse or not liking it and having to spend more money to change it back or upgrade lol. (Talking myself out of it here lol)
I have a rack tho and my engine is coming out soon for some tastey upgrades so I'll decide then I reckon.

 

[@Josh]

Yeah I'd just fit the rack and remove the rest.

But I have same concern as you, don't wanna ruin the car by making it worse or not liking it and having to spend more money to change it back or upgrade lol. (Talking myself out of it here lol)
I have a rack tho and my engine is coming out soon for some tastey upgrades so I'll decide then I reckon.

Just do it I say take one for the team...
If it's s dci rack though that's what's used for EPAS anyway say it will just be the other bits to buy

 

[Chambers_RS]

Just do it I say take one for the team...:wink:
If it's s dci rack though that's what's used for EPAS anyway say it will just be the other bits to buy

Yeah exactly, just upgrading to ESAP is more money when I've just brought a diff and 4pot brakes and other stuff. I just wanna abuse the car haha. Need an ecu or to get mine mapped for a RS2

 

[@Josh]

My big money will be spend over the winter trying to get ready for racing next year, was thinking an RS2 inlet but then might just make the jump to bodies haha
@Chambers_RS where did you get your poly windows from

 

[Chambers_RS]

The RS2 is a Nice bit of kit. I managed to bag one of the last oringial manifolds from James Stone who designed rather than the ones available now.

Got em from here
http://www.acwmotorsportplastics.co.uk/renault-clio-mk2-3dr.html
Fronts are spot on, wish I got Plastic4Performance rear ones tho.

 

[@Josh]

@Chambers_RS did you ever fit your Manual rack or is it still a work in progress?

 

[Chambers_RS]

Work in progress but think I'm chickening out tbf.
I work for GSF and rang round all the major recon and new suppliers of steering racks and all the there records and cross referencing points to DCi racks being 3:1 lock to lock.
I've even physically tried the mk1 racks and mk3 racks and none come close to the cup lock to lock.

I wanna stay 2.5 lock to lock at the most, gunna probably stick to hydraulic for now as I wanna get on a track beginning of November. May try and add a small cooler to keep it from boiling the fluid. Maybe a small mocal cooler?

What you thinking about racks?

 

[bloke]

you need the earlier dci rack. the part number is in the epas conversion thread.

 

[Chambers_RS]

Tried it they still claim it to be 3.1 and they list them DCi rack to have use the same rack from start to finish.

 

[Ph1 Tom]

I ran a 2.75 manual rack like a hero. Loved it, apart from parking.

 

[bozothenutter]

hydroline/woodward probably make what you want.....big money though....

 

[@Josh]

Still want to go manual @Chambers_RS fed up of my PAS and don't really fancy £150+ for Epas!
@Ph1 Tom what did you use? Dci rack?

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Yeah DCI but the 2.75 version not the 3.25 turn one.

 

[@Josh]

@Ph1 Tom where did you find the rack from? Struggling to find one anywhere

 

[Ph1 Tom]

Autosteer direct

 

[Chambers_RS]

I may loop my cup rack to keep the lock the as low as poss.

 

[KitsonRis]

Previous track cars I have owned didn't have PAS.....Triumph 2000 and a Mk1 Fiesta. Didn't noticed it on track, but did at slow speeds pulling onto and off the track. I will not comment on the Triumph's other handling "issues" lol