loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
I have ordered twice from tyre leader, and although (IME) it may take 1-2 days longer than camskill or another UK based supply, they still arrive when stated and with no issues.
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Michelin pilot sport 3
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Poopensharten
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Because the general public are f**king mongos?
bozothenutter
ClioSport Club Member
Rainsports are better in the rain because that was the focus of their development.....what's in a name.
Wish Michelin would do supersports or cup's in our sizes....
Wish Michelin would do supersports or cup's in our sizes....
497adam
ClioSport Club Member
clio 172 phase 2
Unless living in the highlands of Scotland there is no need fir winter tyres . The weather in Scotland is comparable to England such as lakes Pennines Yorkshire .. All wet places . Any premium tyre should be good enough . The tyre I've found best for all conditions is Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 2...Over 16 k on fronts and lots of hard driving
Clio Trophy
It depends entirely on your own personal circumstances. If you're commuting at 5am every morning you'll have a stronger case for fitting them, for example.
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
As already mentioned, winter tyres aren't about snow, its about temperature. Most of the UK falls below 7degrees for a lot of the day in the winter months, let alone the darkest depths of Scotland. Its not about coping with colder weather on all season/summer tyres, its about gaining buy use of winters.
Most people are happy to have a 2nd set of track day tyres to gain a few tenths on a non competive trackday, but don't want to spend a few quid on some winter tyres to improve safety. And you don't actually waste money, as you are saving on tyre wear on your summer set. The only outlay is on either paying to swap them on your existing wheels biannually, or a spare set of rims. Short term expense of a 2nd set of tyres, is outweighed long term on tyre wear.
Most people are happy to have a 2nd set of track day tyres to gain a few tenths on a non competive trackday, but don't want to spend a few quid on some winter tyres to improve safety. And you don't actually waste money, as you are saving on tyre wear on your summer set. The only outlay is on either paying to swap them on your existing wheels biannually, or a spare set of rims. Short term expense of a 2nd set of tyres, is outweighed long term on tyre wear.
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Cant agree with what? Its perfectly possible to drive on any tyre in winter. It WILL be safer on dedicated winter tyres. Whether YOU have managed or not is irrelevant.
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Who said you needed to?
Dannyeff
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 trophy
is this the correct tyre?
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m62b0s344...Eff_:_F_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_2_Noise:_71dB
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m62b0s344...Eff_:_F_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_2_Noise:_71dB
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Yeah, some argue the XL (extra load) helps stiffen walls, but for a car as light as the clio, the difference is negligible.
By the time you've added postage (£3 each at camskill) you can get these and postage is free:
http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-sport-ps3/205-45-r16-83v-63965
By the time you've added postage (£3 each at camskill) you can get these and postage is free:
http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-sport-ps3/205-45-r16-83v-63965
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Almost any un branded tyre place will do a cash job. Even Kwikfits etc will do cash jobs. Just go there on a sunday when the main manager is less likely to be in. Try local places first as once they know you less eyebrows will be raised. In these situations its definite, 'who you know, not what you know'
Pug 206 SW, 172 CUP
Lol at the anti winter tyre brigade. As I said I don't fit track day tyres when I go to tracks as I can get my car round well enough on road tyres but I would have more grip if I did buy track day tyres. No-one said you must have winter tyres in the winter in Scotland but that they would be useful. If you have the money then why not. No-one really needs more power or better brakes on a Clio sport road car but they do it anyway.
Volvo XC60 T8
I only managed to find one place that would do it and they charged £18 per tyre and scratched the outer face to buggery! Will stick with blackcircles in future.
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Ouch - I'm lucky enough to have mate to do mine. But have used 2 other garages in recent years when mates weren't around who did cash jobs. £10 a tyre is most i've ever paid from a non mate.
That's what were on my 182 when I bought it. Good in the dry, dangerous in the wet. Getting Pilot 3s on Monday as can't bear the Kumhos any longer.
Not even close to true at all IME. In fact, I've never found a garage who wouldn't do it. Some are more expensive than others, but the town I live near is relatively small and I have at least five places under 6 miles away that will fit them for £45-65 fully balanced etc. 4/5 of those are tyre/exhaust specific garages as well.
Winter tyres are absolutely about snow! But you're right that they're not just about snow and are also about ambient/road temps and wet weather performance.
Spot on IMO. If you have the cash then they're a good investment IME. If you don't, then you'll be fine just drive accordingly.
Clio Trophy
I may actually go for the Goodyear Eagles. They're the same price and tend to have faired better in most reviews.
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
How are you finding them?
R35 GT-R, 172 Cup
I run MPSS's on my GT-R and they are a fantastic tyre for all conditions. If they came in the right size for the sport I'd defo get a set.
Sorry to bump, but I have just bought the right set of tyres, right?
Because I just paid £200 which is way less than the prices quoted here were a month ago.
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s99p110927/Michelin_Tyres_Car_Michelin_Pilot_Sport_3_PS3_-_195_50_R15_82V_TL_Fuel_Eff_:_F_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_2_Noise:_71dB
Because I just paid £200 which is way less than the prices quoted here were a month ago.
http://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s99p110927/Michelin_Tyres_Car_Michelin_Pilot_Sport_3_PS3_-_195_50_R15_82V_TL_Fuel_Eff_:_F_Wet_Grip:_A_NoiseClass:_2_Noise:_71dB
BMW M4; S1000 RR
Yep, I have those on mine.
Best road tyre by far in wet or dry.
To answer your question yes, the reason they're cheap is the classic 195/50-15 size vs the more expensive 205/45-16 that are standard for Ph2.
Best road tyre by far in wet or dry.
To answer your question yes, the reason they're cheap is the classic 195/50-15 size vs the more expensive 205/45-16 that are standard for Ph2.
loggyboy
ClioSport Club Member
Aren't prices above for 16s
It's a surprise seeing so many people raving about the PS3's on here. I put them on the Megane after the OEM PS2's had died and hated them, Step back from the PS2 they replaced and they were soon binned for something else. Common thing with RS Megane's.
Maybe they just work better on a lighter, less powerful car?
Maybe they just work better on a lighter, less powerful car?
mk1 Octavia VRS
Tyres are very subjective and I think performance can differ between tyre sizes and what car they are fitted to.
Some people really rate T1-Rs but I went past a T1-R shod race spec 182 around Rockingham easily with my AD08Rs. Likewise some people really rate the Conti Sport Contact 3 but I found them really lacking in the wet.
When it comes to buying tyres I tend to base my decision mostly on my own experiences or people whose opinions I trust.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
You rated the PS2s, yet hate the PS3s even though they are an improvement over the PS2 ??
BMW M4; S1000 RR
I've never understood why people rate Toyos.. There is no way in all that's holy anyone could prefer them to a PS3.
Unless you deliberately want less grip that is.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
Oh. It must be true then.
Yes of course it is.
Yawn.
Im going on my personal experience as well as the feedback from friends who have actually used them, Not because they read it on the internet. Out of all the many types of tyres i have ran on the Megane they were some of the worst, Certainly for feel
Yawn.
Im going on my personal experience as well as the feedback from friends who have actually used them, Not because they read it on the internet. Out of all the many types of tyres i have ran on the Megane they were some of the worst, Certainly for feel
BMW M4; S1000 RR
So the fact they have more grip is what, manufacturers opinion?
Fact?
Slower on track and less grip on the road on our Meganes, Can send you some datalogs if you want to look at them?
Anyway, I'm out. You can carry on but in my own experience they are worse than the PS2's they supposedly replaced. Ill stick to my PSS's for road use
Slower on track and less grip on the road on our Meganes, Can send you some datalogs if you want to look at them?
Anyway, I'm out. You can carry on but in my own experience they are worse than the PS2's they supposedly replaced. Ill stick to my PSS's for road use
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