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It used to idle to low and then start to shudder as if it was about to cut out. now ive changed the carb it just wont idle at all. The only way i can get it started is by pumping the accelerator as i turn the key. it will then start. but then as soon as i take my foot off the pedal it just dies and cuts out. wont idle what so ever. :S
Do you know any furoms that will be able to help me?
Do you know any furoms that will be able to help me?
Clio RSI 1.6
My mate had a problem with that and it ended up being the clutch that was the problem somehow? Don't askme how though!
Ph1 track 172
idle control valve?
TPS?
just general carb set up not injecting enough fuel?
not sure if any of those are on a carb engine
and it will only be the clutch if it is failing to disengage the engine from the box. and therefore when parked the engine cannot turn over as its still connected to the wheels.
TPS?
just general carb set up not injecting enough fuel?
not sure if any of those are on a carb engine
and it will only be the clutch if it is failing to disengage the engine from the box. and therefore when parked the engine cannot turn over as its still connected to the wheels.
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if iirc this is what your engine looks like?? if so where the throttle cable is spring clipped to the rocker cover to the left of the filler cap pull the little spring out and pull the plastic bit towards the radiator 1 notch at a time (put the clip back in every notch you do) keep starting or leave running if it will the car until it runs on its own and idles right. then there is a little stub screw got yellow paint on the head of it sometimes in the mechanism under where the cable is attached to that plastic thing in which the throttle mehcanism retracts to (normaly). adjust it inwards until it touches the mechanism,turn the car off then adjust the throttle cable back so when you press the throttle pedal to the floor the little flap that moves is dead vertical so you can see right in (like below) put the spring clip back in and start the car should be idleing perfect. thats what i did on my old 1.2 i had years back and worked a treat
its easier to do than explain
its easier to do than explain
many thanks for the replys guys! much appreciated.
Rockerz182 : The last owner before me must of broke that clip! which is why it is dam cable tied! guess that could be the reason? ill get a new clip and try it.
172lover : Yeah thanks for the link ill have a look now
Struggler : Im not sure i have a tps but i think i do have a ICV however before i changed the carb it used to idle but it went up and down like it was grunting. Now it just doesnt idle at all. The original carb i had on the car was apparently injecting to much fuel and flooding the engine...the bloke said it looks like the car was set up to be raced and to get a new carb. this new one i got is injecting a lot less fuel. but looks like enough.
Rockerz182 : The last owner before me must of broke that clip! which is why it is dam cable tied! guess that could be the reason? ill get a new clip and try it.
172lover : Yeah thanks for the link ill have a look now
Struggler : Im not sure i have a tps but i think i do have a ICV however before i changed the carb it used to idle but it went up and down like it was grunting. Now it just doesnt idle at all. The original carb i had on the car was apparently injecting to much fuel and flooding the engine...the bloke said it looks like the car was set up to be raced and to get a new carb. this new one i got is injecting a lot less fuel. but looks like enough.
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if its all cable tied up thats your problem mate! only takes a few mm play each way and you will have idleing problems.
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Update: Changed throttle cable and adjusted it like Rockerz said, Changed ht leads, changed coil pack, changed distributer cap and re-checked spark plugs. YEt still the same problme.
I have played with that screw rockerz was on about above. ive screwed it as far out towards the mechanism as possible yet still no different!
Any ideas? i have literally run out of patience with it. :'(
I have played with that screw rockerz was on about above. ive screwed it as far out towards the mechanism as possible yet still no different!
Any ideas? i have literally run out of patience with it. :'(
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without seeing the car i couldn't pin point anything really, apart from get your old carb if you still have it and compare things to make sure there is no parts missing: springs,clips, plastic bushes etc..:S
where are you based??
the only way i can get it running is by holding the accelrator down whilst turning the key otherwise it wont start. But when i do get it running yes it does rev freely but if i hold the pedal and get it to stay around 12 on the rev gauge it just looses power and dies, even when i put my foot strate back down on the pedal.
if that makes sence lol
if that makes sence lol
went out today and had a play about wiht the carb set up and throttle body. had a thought, strip it all back down and start again. So started car, same problem, so began stripping it down, found a bit of petrol seeping through the gasket. the one where the throttle body meets the inlet manifold. could this be the reason?
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that has mind boggeld me mate, i would'nt stick a new engine in as it will cost you a fair wack to get it through an mot as it stands now
your best option is to get the wheels sold and steering wheel and there will be some chav some where who will buy the body kit.
on my old valver i paid £400 for it and spent near enough £3k getting it back to good condition and at that it was not perfect.
it went through 1 jb3 gearbox and a jc5 wiliams box ended paying out for a 172 box in the end on top of a new clutch, driveshafts,
wishbones ,steering rack, new track rod ends,full front and rear brake setups and rear calipers, full service,starter motor,aux belt ,welding,getting the emissions right etc...etc
alot of the listed was just to get an mot on it, thats before i bought coilovers and new tyres and things.
it would have cost a lot more but i done it all apart from the welding so i saved a fortune on labour costs. trust me cut your losses mate and try and get the money back you have layed out so far.
heres a few pics of my old valver wish i had kept hold of it now
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MicKPM
ClioSport Trader
Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
No offence but forget C16v - Head over to Retro-Renault. When you've signed up for a free account speak to a guy called ChrisH - What he doesn't know about the Energy engines isn't worth knowing! Just a word of warning though, don't BS him as he doesn't suffer fools gladly but I promise you he'll sort you out!
Mick
Rockerz - Thats a sweet clio you had there! im still not sure what to do. Ive advertised that im breaking it on a few sites, and lookd at new lumps and bloody hell they aint cheap! looking like breaking it is the only way to go.
MicKPM - Thanks for the site, ive joined up on the forum and found chrisH profile but i cant seem to find how to PM him :s
MicKPM - Thanks for the site, ive joined up on the forum and found chrisH profile but i cant seem to find how to PM him :s
MicKPM
ClioSport Trader
Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
Click >>here<< to open the New PM window (sign in if required) then type "ChrisH" in the recipients tab... then "send" to message him.
Tell him I sent you over for advice then he'll proceed to lay in to me and help you out where possible - honestly though the guy is one of the few people that i'd trust to work on my cars without me having to look over his shoulder constantly. He helped me get my Gordini Turbo running after +10yrs of being sat rotting away at the side of a garage in Kendal and he came from Glasgow to lend a hand so a genuinely top bloke. As I said before though he's very blunt and always to the point so if he calls you a "Wee neddy bastid" for not listening to what he's said don't take it overly personally... its just his shoot from the hip attitude towards everyone!
Mick
Tell him I sent you over for advice then he'll proceed to lay in to me and help you out where possible - honestly though the guy is one of the few people that i'd trust to work on my cars without me having to look over his shoulder constantly. He helped me get my Gordini Turbo running after +10yrs of being sat rotting away at the side of a garage in Kendal and he came from Glasgow to lend a hand so a genuinely top bloke. As I said before though he's very blunt and always to the point so if he calls you a "Wee neddy bastid" for not listening to what he's said don't take it overly personally... its just his shoot from the hip attitude towards everyone!
Mick
just tried your link mate and it says
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Mk3 1.6 Dynamique S
I had the same problem as you when I had my Mk1 Clio, the problem was when I changed the throttle body it was the wrong one I got. The difference was on the side of the throttle body there is a plug on the side with 4 pins but the original one that didn't work only had 3.
Will the car idle when the engine has warmed up?
Will the car idle when the engine has warmed up?
Mk3 1.6 Dynamique S
I wouldn't have thought it would be a timing issue if the car was running before so it could possibly be the ECU but I'm really not sure. Sorry I cant give you more help.
i went out this morning and tried to start it and now the NEW carb is over-fuelling. the same problem the last one had. so whats causing it?
when i UNPLUG the red connector to the single point injector (so no fuel goes down the throttle body) the ca will start and idle fine untill it runs out of fuel.
so i tried it again and it started and idled and then i plugged in the red connector and it cut out instantly. Ideas??
im baffled.
when i UNPLUG the red connector to the single point injector (so no fuel goes down the throttle body) the ca will start and idle fine untill it runs out of fuel.
so i tried it again and it started and idled and then i plugged in the red connector and it cut out instantly. Ideas??
im baffled.
ok i changed the ECU this morning. Started the car and bingo idle fine and started fine.. however took for a drive round the block and everytime i dip the clutch to change gear or come to a junction it drops dramatically and stalls. i try to start back up but wouldnt untill around half our later. ????
