Mk1 or Mk2 Cup

[clan2_uk]

Im currently selling my 2003 Subaru WRX and I am going to buy a sensible diesel family car and a 172 clio. My question is what is the best buy, a mark one or the later model cup version, my budget will be between £4K and £6K. I prefer the look of the Mk1 it seems to stand out better but I would like a second opinion.

 

[GarethM]

definatley go for the mk1 like me by far better looking not as many about as cup's or mk2 172's. plus you get the leather seats, air con etc.

 

[Mondial172]

You'd been very very pushed to get a decent (non cat D) Cup for under £6k.

I'd choose the mk1 172 because £6k would be a decent one and a £6k Cup wouldn't be a great one.

Althought they are getting cheap! Maybe if you wait a couple of days
lol!

 

[Neil82]

definatley go for the mk1 like me by far better looking not as many about as cup's or mk2 172's. plus you get the leather seats, air con etc.

So much better looking that a fare few owners on here try and make them look like mark 2 172's. It's a complete no brainer it has to be the Cup over a 172 mark 1 everytime. The mark 1 doesn't handle anywhere near as well, has a horrible looking dash, not very nice 15" wheels and doesn't look as good.

 

[Mondial172]

£6k on the nose

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/49552.htm

Nice car to.

 

[clan2_uk]

So much better looking that a fare few owners on here try and make them look like mark 2 172's. It's a complete no brainer it has to be the Cup over a 172 mark 1 everytime. The mark 1 doesn't handle anywhere near as well, has a horrible looking dash, not very nice 15" wheels and doesn't look as good.

I don't want to start a war here but I think that a Mk2 looks too similar to say a 16V Dynamique. I'm not too hung up about looks as I might eventually use it on track days so handling and performance are more important to me. So does a Mk2 handle better than a Mk1 ?

 

[B16DOE]

not just saying cup cos i got one but come on you know the 172 cups look that much better

 

[Gaz_]

I don't want to start a war here but I think that a Mk2 looks too similar to say a 16V Dynamique. I'm not too hung up about looks as I might eventually use it on track days so handling and performance are more important to me. So does a Mk2 handle better than a Mk1 ?

.... but look at the back of a mk1 and it even has the same bumper as a standard model.....

hhhmmmmmm

 

[JayGTT]

phase 1 does it for me ive driven all the clio rs 182 / 182 cup phase 2 172 e.t.c, the phase 1 is just more fun.

plus is only a bit heavier then a cup unlike the fat phase 2 lol

 

[matt the cat]

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=293
some of both on here. Ive had 2 mk1 172's a mk2 172 and now got a trophy.

Best looking by miles is the original and best mk1! in silver imho - most common colour but by god they look the bollox!! yeah the dash is dated but so what!? the mk2 is hardly ergonomic excellence. and the mk1 seems to rattle less and is quicker to 60

Cups are not my cuppa.

 

[Neil82]

A mark 1 172 weighs only 10-15 kg less than a mark 2 172, tested on a weight bridge.

 

[Neil82]

Since I can't edit the above ^

The mark 1 172 weighs a good 75 ish kg more than a Cup.

 

[Lagerlout]

The mk1 is the original. But definitely not the best. I've driven all variants except the Trophy, and the mk1 was the worst in terms of handling... imho.

People rave about the looks, but I think they look all cutesy and bubbly. lol.

 

[BigD]

I prefer the looks of the Phase 2 over the Phase 1, the front end just looks more business like and meaner.

But at the end of the day its your car and its up to you which one you buy, if you prefer the looks of the phase 1 and only want to spend 5-6k then its a no brainer.

As someone already said your not going to get a 172 Cup for 5-6k, Ain't gonna happen unless you get a cat D or one thats been thrashed to within an inch of its life and is boll*xed!

 

[James Bushell]

A 172 Cup every time for me..

My previous beast.. (on the left) It's a bit white from salt after gritting.. as we did a breakfast run in the snow..

 

[JayGTT]

Phase 1 or phase 2 there both great cars lets just hope the mk3 is as good.

 

[Phill1978]

stepping from a wrx into a clio hmm.. has to be a cup.

just apply gold wheels

 

[blink172]

Tough Call, i've driven all of them except the trophy and id have to say the PH2 is just that bit better (granted it wasnt a long term test).

Looks wise, the PH1 interior is awful (no offence guys and gals), its so dated. A PH1 with the ally bonnet, fitted with a PH2 interior, rear lights and Bumper and cup Turini's would look the nuts.

 

[clan2_uk]

As someone already said your not going to get a 172 Cup for 5-6k, Ain't gonna happen unless you get a cat D or one thats been thrashed to within an inch of its life and is boll*xed![/QUOTE]


Just thought that I would point this out http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ww...urce=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

Two seperate cups for £6495 looks like my £6K budget will stretch to a cup if required, £495 is not much to negotiate off of the screen price as I wont be trading in etc.

 

[edde]

There a few Cups for sale at £5~5.5k on autotrader but theres limited choice
How about a full fat 172 that j3ned selling its a cat C repair but £5k for a Mk2 fll fat with Cup wheels and spoiler its cheap.
I'd personally got for a £4k Mk1

 

[BigD]

As someone already said your not going to get a 172 Cup for 5-6k, Ain't gonna happen unless you get a cat D or one thats been thrashed to within an inch of its life and is boll*xed!

Just thought that I would point this out http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=RENAULT&model=CLIO&variant=cup&keywords=&min_pr=75&max_pr=7000&mileage=&agerange=&postcode=g82+1bj&miles=1500&max_records=50&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

Two seperate cups for £6495 looks like my £6K budget will stretch to a cup if required, £495 is not much to negotiate off of the screen price as I wont be trading in etc.[/QUOTE]

If you think you can swing it, doesn't mean the car isn't thrashed and f*cked though and with you saying 5-6k I thought you may be looking somewhere in between.

Your choice, your car, I personaly wouldn't take a chance on a Cup that cheap but tis up to you.

 

[Dave]

TBH as its a second car I'd be getting a Mint Mk1. Colour coded. Rear bumper off a MkII and sort the suspension and enjoy the toys.

Cups too risky for me. Wonder how many we'll lose this year?

 

[Mondial172]

There ain't many Cup's for under £6.5k. Even if there is a few it might be a 300 mile trip for him to go get one!

 

[clan2_uk]

There ain't many Cup's for under £6.5k. Even if there is a few it might be a 300 mile trip for him to go get one!

There doesn't seem to be much available in Scotland so I know that I will need to travel for the right car as any car enthusiast would.

 

[badinvincible]

Buy my ph1 172 for 5k and a bit.

 

[miketheman2k]

After owning a ph1 V6 with a mk1 interior, I'd never go back to it. I know the cup hasn't got many toys, but the quality of the material is much improved and has a nicer ambiance.

The Cup is stiffer suspension setup (out of the box), so it would be more suited to your trackdays, etc. What's the point of having the diesel runaround if your Clio has more toys?

 

[_Kenny_]

I wouldn't say the cup interior is any better built than a mk1 172. Yes the two interiors are different (and perhaps the cup's looks a little bit more modern) but I like the mk1 interior as well.
Saying that, these cars aren't about the interiors! It's a tough call but I'd choose a Cup if I had the choice

 

[clan2_uk]

What's the point of having the diesel runaround if your Clio has more toys?

The diesel runaround (probably a leon cupra tdi) is for our main family car, I want the clio to use for work and weekend fun. At the moment the subaru is our main family car and my wife has a corsa sxi to run about it, but the 23 mpg from the scoob is killing me.

 

[jon_r]

I'd get the Cup over the Mk1 having driven both. I'd just say get the best one you can afford making sure its been looked after.