Mot seats and belt question.

[Mark-387]

I've got my mot coming up and I'm unsure if it's a fail or pass. So the question is If I strip out the rear will it pass or fail. I currently have all seats in but no middle seat belt took it out to find a leak and don't want it back in as I want to strip it out.

Cheers mark

 

[Martin.]

I asked my mate this who's an MOT tester. He said at his garage, if there is a seat then it needs a seat belt. But if there is no seat then no seat belt is required.

I'm not sure if that's the actual law or just the policy at his garage. All garages will vary to some extent.

 

[182Turboo]

Yeah basically as above if its there it has to work. If its not there they don't test for it sort of thing

 

[Knuckles]

I asked my mate this who's an MOT tester. He said at his garage, if there is a seat then it needs a seat belt. But if there is no seat then no seat belt is required.

I'm not sure if that's the actual law or just the policy at his garage. All garages will vary to some extent.

How would that work with 172 cups?

 

[Ian_s]

How would that work with 172 cups?

Why would they be any different?

 

[Don]

Why would they be any different?

Its no different as the 172Cup had 2 rear belts..so is no issue :s

 

[JackJack]

Its no different as the 172Cup had 2 rear belts..so is no issue :s

This.

Basically you can't have one and not the other. So seats and belts or nothing.

 

[Knuckles]

The 172 cup has a 3 seat rear bench iirc but only 2 seat belts.

But I was under the impression that 'if its not there, they can't test it'

 

[James28]

Pretty sure the cup still has the middle belt too.
Non sports that have a bench rear seat still have middle belts

 

[DaveDreads]

I always put my seats back in for mot time, i've had testers be a bit funny about there being belts but no seats,
so I just bolt the whole lot back in once a year, only takes 5 mins.

Oh and cups don't have a middle seat belt, it was in a thread the other week with pics to prove it,
there's nothing on the roof and no holder for one in between the seats either.

That was on a 172 cup.

 

[-J-]

Mine used to pass with no rear seat and belts still fitted.

 

[Struggler]

does the cup still have 5 seater on the logbook?? or is it sold as a 4 seater?!

afaik, all seats need belts and all belts need seats. and REMOVED safety equitment will definately make complications!

 

[DaveDreads]

The thread I read about the 172cup said it's down as a 4 seater on the log books.

 

[mattyRB 182]

As said above if there is a seat its needs a seat belt if seats are removed its an advisory no rear seats fitted at time test unable to check seatbelts so just remove the rear seats it will pass

 

[Mark-387]

Cheers for the info guys there now out

 

[DJC1980]

does the cup still have 5 seater on the logbook?? or is it sold as a 4 seater?!

afaik, all seats need belts and all belts need seats. and REMOVED safety equitment will definately make complications!

Didn't want to start a new thread on this but basically my car(172 cup) failed the NCT(Irish MOT) the other day due to having no centre seat belt so they asked me to either get the logbook amended as it has it down as a 5 seater or fit a centre belt.

I have less than 30 days to sort either or I have to pay for a full retest which I don't want.

Sorting the logbook out could well take over 30 days so im looking at throwing in a seat belt.

Question is how do you fit one in a cup? Am I right in saying in the normal 172 its roof mounted? I had a look in mine and I cant see anywhere to mount one even if I borrow it from a friends 172.

 

[DJC1980]

Anyone?

 

[AdDaMan]

Just take the back seats out and the seatbelts and get it retested. Will save you alot of hassle.

 

[Heez]

My suggestion would be to go to a scrappies and get a rear bench from any other clio along with a middle belt then replace them for the MOT.

Don't how they'd react to missing seats because the rear bench doesn't have space for a fifth seat.