My 200 test drive opinions....

[Gaz_]

Not by me, i like the CTR. What i dont like about it is the 'change over' is very smooth, nothing like the old vti civic i had a go in

 

[Munson]

You just keep it on the boil, its not hard. Highly strung NA, all the way. If you want loads of low down grunt, buy a TD

Agreed. However, I don't think anyone wouldn't prefer the same car, but with the slightly more urgent feel more akin to a 182. It's never going to be a drag monster but it's not an unusual opinion that they could do with a bit more grunt. Every motoring press road test I've ever read says the same thing. So do I, and so do many others. I should clarify that my only experience was a197, and yes I did drive it properly. Getting the back end out on a b-road with the sales guy holding on for dear life, isn't a 10-minute cruise around town

They're awesome cars. They'd be even more awesome with a bit more torque to counter the increased bulk.

Fanboys who won't have a bad word said about their car are annoying.

 

[Gaz_]

^ 90% of the time the car wouldnt be driven on the lmit.
Day to day I couldnt live with it for my stated reasons. Wanted to like it, gave it a shot and didnt.

I wouldnt get offended if you couldnt handle a DC2

re refined, not a rattly rover x

 

[Pep]

re refined, not a rattly rover x

Basically yeah. I like my DC2 because it's like the 182, feels like you are going fast. In real terms probably no faster than a 197/200.
A proper hot hatch should be good at everything.

And for the record, I love my mates R27, the 200 doesn;t seem to have any improvements over that.

 

[Gaz_]

Suppose thats why i have the best of both worlds. I have the gf's 106 GTI often, and i love that. Old school, not a million miles off RS pace, raw. Its a good car.

as posted above though, slightly damed if they do, damed if they dont. The rattles/gruffnes of the mk2 grated on me after 4 years. I wanted more refinement, the mk3 is a big step up.

 

[Louism]

Whos not having a bad word said, its got lame low down power and you have to boot it, its a refined 197. Personally love it bit i dont like. Im not some one looking at it through rose tinted glasses, but theres a reason the 197#s are so successfull, i bout my 200 based on a 197.

 

[Louism]

but equally i like the fact the car wants to be booted

 

[Dyewitness]

so in summary most people on here hate the 200.

what is the gearing difference between the 197 to 200 then?

 

[Poopensharten]

Will be worth the money when there under 8k in 3 years imo

 

[Louism]

selling it after 2

 

[Munson]

so in summary most people on here hate the 200.

what is the gearing difference between the 197 to 200 then?

I don't know the ratios, but apparently the first three gears are lower. Hopefully the overall gearing in top is at least the same or higher.

 

[Louism]

does a 197 have a front spliter? the chasis is much stiffer bum is nicer, i prefer the nose but many dont

 

[Dyewitness]

does a 197 have a front spliter? the chasis is much stiffer bum is nicer, i prefer the nose but many dont

yeah comes with spliter.

the front end is my only so so point with the 200 but f**k it i get it on the 10th october so will get used to it

 

[Louism]

what colour, also you will love it

 

[Dyewitness]

what colour, also you will love it

albi blue with antharcite pack

 

[Louism]

v nice, any other extras? cup pack etc?

 

[ForceIndia]

so in summary most people on here hate the 200.

what is the gearing difference between the 197 to 200 then?

Typical. If you remove the chip fom your shoulder, there's been very few people -ve about the 200.

 

[Dyewitness]

v nice, any other extras? cup pack etc?

cup pack
folding door mirrors
cornering lights

not into recaros so wouldnt even consider them, find standard seats comfy so fit my purpose

 

[Louism]

the recaros suck dude

 

[Gaz_]

do they f**k!!!

And yes, i've got both

 

[Munson]

I still can't shake the idea of an AG200 rolling on black. My only issues would be the fake tailpipes and the horrific front end. I know it will be epic on track though, and I'll be sitting inside it so f**k the looks.

 

[seb]

 

[Munson]

the recaros suck dude

do they f**k!!!

And yes, i've got both

Do the Recaros still fall apart due to 'fair wear & tear' just like the 182 capstan? Remember kids...softer plastics doesn't equal better engineering

 

[Dyewitness]

epic seb!

 

[Munson]

.

You love it seb. Have you ordered the AG185 yet?

 

[Louism]

I just found them very uncomfortable for every day use, i love the standard seats and made them yellow, 850 is alot to spend on seats if you will only have time to track it a few times per year

 

[Gaz_]

Do the Recaros still fall apart due to 'fair wear & tear' just like the 182 capstan? Remember kids...softer plastics doesn't equal better engineering

Probably, but i cant see it when i'm sat in them

 

[seb]

nah not going to be ordering one tbh. i cannae afford it.

 

[Gaz_]

I just found them very uncomfortable for every day use, i love the standard seats and made them yellow, 850 is alot to spend on seats if you will only have time to track it a few times per year

Why do you only need Recaro's for the track?

They are fitted in LOADS of road cars these days

 

[Louism]

sure but i found them a pain in the arse to get in and out of for an everyday car, the standard hug you loads aswell but its personal init

 

[seb]

sure but i found them a pain in the arse to get in and out of for an everyday car, the standard hug you loads aswell but its personal init

are u big boned? (serious.)

 

[Louism]

lol no im not a fatty fatty fat fat. Also for 850 i expected more, seb have you sat in them? they are apparently different thatn the 197 ones

 

[seb]

yeah sat in them about 3 years ago at the motor show.

 

[Louism]

the new ones, i have heard these are not as good as the 197 ones

 

[seb]

thought they where the same recaros?

 

[Louism]

someone on here has said otherwise but eitherway they wernt for me

 

[Gaz_]

I'd put money on them being 100% the same, and will fall apart in a years time

 

[Munson]

There were pics on here a few days ago of the leather Recaros. Now those should hold up better :approve:

 

[Louism]

I think you would be mad to do leather in a clio

 

[Dyewitness]

I think you would be mad to do leather in a clio

loved my 182's half leather interior