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Its bambams so its already run in! Its turned a nice gold colour, looks really cool. Know what you mean, changing down from 4th/5th to 2nd is great fun! Love going through tunnels as well, couldnt believe it would sound so deep. Its a 6x3 btw, think its a bit a quieter than your twin, but its just right for me
-Rob
H22A7 Accord Type R
.........a lot of the reason i aint bothered with an induction kit for mine is because i hear they dont sound all that loud or great.............. any of u boys out there with 1.2 16vs found a MINT one yet????? or does the engine just not have all that great an induction note in it?????
Rob
VIPER!
I have one and i am well pleased! Alot louder then the Pipercross S Spec (according to Fred)
I have the std zorst on for now with it fitted and the nosie it noiceable as i have people asked me what zorst have i fitted none its the viper!
So my opinion is the viper, i am plesed with it !
(Also i think i have converter fred from his s spec to the viper!)
Come on ROb, pics?? and an audio clip?
I dont like posting pics till the car is finished but heres one. Ill get an audio clip at the weekend.
http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1060779461__exhaust1.jpg
H22A7 Accord Type R
god, think thats the first time ive seen a pic of all your car, not just a scuffed wheel!!!! whats wi the number plate??? im interested
looks like yer exhaust needs some tweaking??? bit low, or maybe its coz its a black car? i had to adjust mine loads till it was rightRob
Hi guys,
The exhaust is a better fit than it looks, as the bumper sort of merges with the shadow, i will need to adjust it slightly to give as much clearance as possible for speed bumps when its lowered though.
Two reasons for the numberplate, firstly motivation to work towards getting the cup and also i thought i better get it before someone else snapped it up! Its actually appreciated in value so if i dont get a Cup ive made a tidy profit anyway!
Cheers
-Rob
compare 1/4 mile times of mine and fred
me : ktr exhaust, s-spec i/k on ktr relocation pipe
fred : powerflow exhaust, viper
times
me : 18.062
fred : 18.069
alright, he was running on 17s, and i was on 15s, but fred was not hitting the limiter in 3rd, i was hitting the limiter in 3rd about 40ft before the finish
to be honest, the viper will not show great gains on the 1.2 over an open i/k, just will sound better
chances are in fact that yonce you fit the viper, you will lose power, as a couple of 172 drivers have found out, once the viper is fitted you will have to have the ECU remapped to get the fuelling right, lots of hassle for a couple of bhp
Its difficult to say what difference induction kits make in terms of overall power gains. What they will do is redistribute power through the revs. An ECU remap and a larger bore exhaust system together with an induction kit should give you a few more BHP at higher revs, but the low-end torque drops significantly. Means you have to work it harder when youre driving about town but foer B-road thrashing its a big improvement. In terms of the variations between induction kits, a K&N 57i will be good when theres a cold air supply (e.g. a ram pipe, filter relocation pipe so filter is in grille, lots of cold air feeds/dams, or cold weather) but when it gets warm it will lose power. A Piper-x is the same, but not quite as pronounced an effect. Viper kit is the least susceptible to temperature conditions as the carbon box practically shields the filter from all engine heat, but its a little more restrictive than an open IK so the potential gains are more limited. Also, it can result in knocking/pinking without a ECU remap to sort the fuelling.
Regarding your comment about the Powerflow exhaust not doing the car any justice. I assume what youre referring to is the fact that since its a custom made universal exhaust, rather than one designed for the specific application it wont be designed to the requirements of the individual car and therefore is likely to lose power, as the pipework may not be of the right bore/shape for the vehicle, therefore not attaining the best balance between back-pressure and free-flow for the individual vehicle. This is true up to a point, in that the main application specific exhaust companies design the exhaust for a car based on the properties of the OE system, and improve upon those with their replacement design.
But this does not mean that a Powerflow, etc. custom exhaust will not give power gains. If the combination of backbox and pipework is right theres no reason why not. Its just more of a lottery as to what you choose! An example of a car with a Powerflow running big power gains is Freds. As far as Im aware his IK is the same as Bambams, (S-Spec), and hes running 17"s (which will slow him down overall, the grip advantage is minimal), yet his times are not much different. And both cars are considerably up on standard power. So the Powerflow hes got does seem to be doing its job pretty well!
