Noticeable performance increase?

[Sargara]

Having only ever driven my car i cant really judge what kind of performance increase i would "feel" from the next step up so to speak.

Basically ive got a 1.2 8v and im looking to P/X it in for a 1.4 16v.

Is this really going to make that much of a noticeable impact on performance between the 2? My mate tells me its not worth it and i should stick with my 1.2 but this coming from a guy with a V8 in his Land Rover Discovery so i dont think hes in the best place to comment.

What do you lot think?

- Stick with my so far reliable (touch wood) 1.2
- P/X it in and get a 1.4 16v

 

[SoA2k6]

Stick with and save for a 2.0. I bought my Cup without test driving any 172/182 at all. You won't be dissapointed

 

[nth]

keep 1.2 and make the big jump
rather than getting the 1.4 and making the big jump anyway

of course you will notice the increase, but its pointless if its short term, i.e. 4years or less.

 

[Aluco]

1.4 16v are fairly quick deffos a fair bit quicker than the 1.2 16v so you will feel a big(ish) increase but personally i wish i had of kept my 1.1 106 for another year and got a 106 gti when insurance went down

 

[Sargara]

A 2.0 is always going to be out of the question due to the distance i drive, its just not practical to spend that much on fuel traveling about 16,000 miles a year.

This is why i was thinking about going for a 1.4 16v "Sport" thats sat in a garage about 10miles away for £1900.

But obviously if im not going to notice much difference other than the electric windows and colour coded wing mirrors is it worth it? :/

 

[Peperami]

1.4 16v are fairly quick deffos a fair bit quicker than the 1.2 16v so you will feel a big(ish) increase but personally i wish i had of kept my 1.1 106 for another year and got a 106 gti when insurance went down

From experience ive found the 1.2 16v and 1.4 16v are no different at all until motorway speeds?

 

[Aluco]

Get a 106 gti,

Dooo it

 

[Aluco]

1.4 16v are fairly quick deffos a fair bit quicker than the 1.2 16v so you will feel a big(ish) increase but personally i wish i had of kept my 1.1 106 for another year and got a 106 gti when insurance went down

?! From experience the 1.2 16v and 1.4 16v are no different at all until motorway speeds!

?! from experience they are :S (My mum has the 1.2 16v)

 

[nth]

A 2.0 is always going to be out of the question due to the distance i drive, its just not practical to spend that much on fuel traveling about 20,000 miles a year.

This is why i was thinking about going for a 1.4 16v "Sport" thats sat in a garage about 10miles away for £1900.

But obviously if im not going to notice much difference other than the electric windows and colour coded wing mirrors is it worth it? :/

nope because ^^

 

[Sargara]

Right so i will notice a difference from 1.2 8v > 1.4 16v on motorway speeds (which is what the majority of my traveling is anyway).

Alright glad we got there in the end lol.

 

[nth]

Right so i will notice a difference from 1.2 8v > 1.4 16v on motorway speeds (which is what the majority of my traveling is anyway).

Alright glad we got there in the end lol.

no. . .lets stay legal
im sure you would notice quicker acceleration

 

[Sargara]

Well currently my little 1.2 8v struggles at anything past 65mph. Which makes overtaking a nightmare.

Dont get me wrong it will go quicker but the engine doesnt sound too healthy when it does!

 

[Reyes]

If i were you i'd save for the 2.0 Never mind the 1.4 or GTi or w/e just save for the 2.0, will feel immense...for abit

 

[nth]

lol what do u expect. . .if getting a 1.4 would make you feel better when overtaking a 65 then by all means go for it. . .though i think you have ur answer to your original question

 

[Poopensharten]

So the 1.2 is what 70-75 bhp?

And the 1.4 is going to be about 85bhp.

Screw the 1.4, buy a civic VTi

 

[Russ.]

Just a point on the fuel consumption, i find that my 182 is far better than my 1.2 16v was on fuel.

On a motorway run it was average over 40mpg. Around town/mixed driving i tend to get somewhere between 30-35mpg depending on my driving.

That gives me around 300miles to a tank (full to somewhere just above the last bar) my 1.2 seemed to manage 260miles to a tank, all the time, everytime no matter how i drove it. odd

 

[Neil G]

I'd stick with the 1.2 myself, moving to a 1.4 won't make that much difference

Rack up the no claims then go straight for the 'main course' (172/182 or 197)

 

[Mark One]

dont get a 106 gti for doing miles

If a 2.0 is out of the question and it has to be a clio, I'd go for the 1.4. Have you looked into how much extra you'd need to throw in? If it's not a lot then it may be worth it.

 

[NIN-172]

The 172/182 is pretty good on mpg if you are going on the motorway & not screwing it.
Taking it easy on long roads without stops you can easy get 40mpg.
And think of the safer overtaking
You just need to resist doing constant safer overtaking

 

[Timmay]

get a 1.6 16v dynamique imo

 

[steven.m]

I've heard the 1.2 8v is poop compared to the 1.2 16v?? But there isnt much difference between the 1.2 16v and the 1.4 16v?? Best bet is to test drive the 1.4 and decide for yourself tbh. you'll get he best comparison than you ever will asking on here!

If you like the 1.4 and arent interested in a RS Clio then get it, or leave it a wee while longer and get a 106 GTi or the like.

 

[Mark One]

The 172/182 is pretty good on mpg if you are going on the motorway & not screwing it.
Taking it easy on long roads without stops you can easy get 40mpg.
And think of the safer overtaking
You just need to resist doing constant safer overtaking

this is very true.
Just get a brand new lambda in it when you get it, change your filters and they do good MPG. especially at 70mph.
see: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=314560&highlight=FAO+everyone+lambda

 

[Marky_]

1.6 i reckon, or even a dci.

 

[MarkRS]

The 1.2 8v is a completely hopeless engine , anyone that says a 1.4 16v isn't much quicker is mad (my mums got a 1.4 16v clio alize) 98 bhp .. and still group 5 insurance.
the 1.2 8v is about 60 bhp.....
The 1.4 16v is a brilliant engine, really smooth and quiet and still would give 50mpg on a run when i used to use it.

 

[Poopensharten]

Saxo VTS ftw or C2 GT insurance friendly!

 

[demps23]

Yeah you will notice a difference in performance. I used to have a 1.2 8v 60bhp so a 1.4 16v with 90ish bhp will definetly be quicker!

 

[Ian]

get a 1.6 16v dynamique imo

1.6 i reckon, or even a dci.

+1, if possible. Although as long as you are a sensible driver the mpg you get from any model will hardly be drastically different. Does sound like a good price for the 1.4 though.

 

[Aluco]

So the 1.2 is what 70-75 bhp?

And the 1.4 is going to be about 85bhp.

Screw the 1.4, buy a civic VTi

1.4 16v is 98bhp.

 

[Chili Red]

Just a point on the fuel consumption, i find that my 182 is far better than my 1.2 16v was on fuel.

Yeah I found that too. My 172 was miles better on fuel than my 1.3 8v Ka was - I really noticed it when I was doing quite a bit of motorway driving.

 

[Phoenix]

there's deffinatly a noticable differance and will feel quick but you will easily get bored of that.
stick with 1.2 and save for something better
doesnt have to be a clio remember.

 

[Clioman51]

Ive had a 1.2 8v then a 1.4 16v and then 2.0 16v
and g/f had a 1.6 16v so i can compare this a bit for ya!

The 1.4 16v is a great performer for what it is with a few mods it goes very well and will keep with a 1.6 16v quite easily, however the 1.6 is just that bit better and again with a few mod will be slightly better. however if you plan to keep them standard go for a 1.6 16v bit more costly failing that go for the 1.4 the 1.2's are no fun at all in comparason and they seem to be so much better. After all its nearly 23bhp between a 1.2 16v and a 1.4 16v and nearly 38bhp better than a 1.2 8v.

 

[Saner]

Dont forget that the 1.4 16v stays in the low tax and insurance brackets, 1.6 16v doesn't.

1.4 16v is better value for money overall.

I can get better MPG in my 2.0 than my 1.4, but it was easier to get good MPG in the 1.4