opinions on eos 1000d

[extremeinferno]

sold my d60 a while back and realy regreting it now:dapprove: so gunna have a word with santa this xmas, ive got my eye on the canon eos 1000d and possibly the nikon d3000. i think the 1000d is the one to go for, just after some opinions.

james

 

[JJ!]

Both good entry level cameras, but you could get a much better camera 2nd hand for the same price.

 

[RyanD]

feels a bit like a toy (small and plastic) but enough settings for the £££ to keep most people happy.

 

[Gaz.]

If you like Nikon, stay with Nikon IMO. I tried a Canon and it was weird.

 

[extremeinferno]

Both good entry level cameras, but you could get a much better camera 2nd hand for the same price.

was thinking that but no idea wots wot, any suggestions on a decent begginer camera. will be doing a evening photography corse next year so hopfully wont be a complete novice for to long.

feels a bit like a toy (small and plastic) but enough settings for the £££ to keep most people happy.

If you like Nikon, stay with Nikon IMO. I tried a Canon and it was weird.

does it realy feel that cheap, i have to say i was quite impressed by the quality of the d60.


thanks chaps

 

[Gaz.]

Well I can't comment on cheapness as this Canon was about £1k's worth, compared to my D40. But I didn't like using it, was wrong.

 

[RyanD]

compaired to my 1d or 30d any of the plastic bodies feel like fisherprice goodies.

it depends what you are used to, mates with 350/400Ds dont notice it till they use a metal cased camera.

You could get a canon 30/40D with low shutter actuations second hand which are better and more durable imo

 

[dunganick]

Personally i didnt have a problem with the build of my 400d, it was equally plasticy to my 40d and 50d. On all Canon models the battery lids and card covers feel very poor, But only as bad as Nikons ive tried and Sonys.

Truthfully the only real difference between the 400d and 40d ive noticed is the AF Speed, Physical Size of Camera, Frame Rate. There may be other differences, but i didnt notice them.

What sort of lens are you after with it and have you got a budget in mind?

 

[RyanD]

Personally i didnt have a problem with the build of my 400d, it was equally plasticy to my 40d and 50d. On all Canon models the battery lids and card covers feel very poor, But only as bad as Nikons ive tried and Sonys.

The plastic bodies are notably different to the metal counterparts.

One is metal one is plastic, and its really noticable imo and one will take alot more abuse.

Try a 1D then see if you think all of the covers are poor

 

[Ian]

Plastic body doesn't bother me in the slightest, find it strange that people bring it up tbh! I suppose it's because I haven't held a camera from higher up in the range like you say though. Although that clearly makes it a case of 'good' and 'better', not 'poor' and 'good'.

I had a quick look at Naith/Riad's D40 a while back and it confused the hell out of me, but if we're honest, it would only take a day to get used to 90% of the differences.

As for the OP, both cameras appear to be very similar so if you already have Nikon lenses get the Nikon, if not, go for whatever feels best. Compare the features side-by-side to see if one has something that you think you'll need that the other doesn't and also go to your local shop and hold/use both cameras.

 

[dunganick]

The plastic bodies are notably different to the metal counterparts.

One is metal one is plastic, and its really noticable imo and one will take alot more abuse.

Try a 1D then see if you think all of the covers are poor

I still cant see it personally, i have a 500d and a 40d here and i feel they are both pretty poor. The 40d is still covered in plastic bits. Ive tried a few of the 1 series and whilst they feel slightly better built, they still didnt impress me massively, not for the cash anyway. But cameras are not what they used to be. I also have to hand an old Pentax film SLR and it blows everything out of the water quality wise.

The slight irony behind it is that the areas of high ware i find mainly to be on the bottom corners of the battery grip and just infront of the shutter release. The battery grip at least in all but 1 series bodies is plastic.

As Ian says the plastic bodies are fine in my mind.

But i suspect the age old advice of go use Jessops to try a few out is the best bet.

 

[ChrisH]

Extreme inferno. If you would like a d60 back I have mine for sale hardly been used in the year I've had it. Pm me if you're interested.

Chris

 

[RyanD]

I still cant see it personally, i have a 500d and a 40d here and i feel they are both pretty poor. The 40d is still covered in plastic bits. Ive tried a few of the 1 series and whilst they feel slightly better built, they still didnt impress me massively, not for the cash anyway. But cameras are not what they used to be. I also have to hand an old Pentax film SLR and it blows everything out of the water quality wise.

The slight irony behind it is that the areas of high ware i find mainly to be on the bottom corners of the battery grip and just infront of the shutter release. The battery grip at least in all but 1 series bodies is plastic.

As Ian says the plastic bodies are fine in my mind.

But i suspect the age old advice of go use Jessops to try a few out is the best bet.

The actual main housing which the camera is built on 'chassis' if you must is much much more robust than the lower counterparts, if you are working a camera hard it pics up lots of bangs and scrapes, the metal cased bodies from both brands will deal with this far better. A friend was quite hard going on her 400 and it didnt last long at all, her 7d has allready taken more abuse than this did. Its something people forget to consider imo

Add to the fact the extra weight and larger size makes them alot better to hold if you are hanging a big lens off the front.

 

[dunganick]

Add to the fact the extra weight and larger size makes them alot better to hold if you are hanging a big lens off the front.

Couldn't agree more on the size.

I will see how i get on with a 350/400d, I think i'm shortly going to buy one as a remote rig, so it will be left in all sorts of nasty places. Having got rid of my 400d i cant comment on how they handle heavy usage. But to be honest how many amateurs give their cameras heavy/pro use.

 

[RyanD]

she was an amateur, some of us start that way and then start using them heavily.

its just a point for consideration imo, like i said initially the 1000D like posted has the features most people will need to keep them happy, its just the durability of the smaller bodies which you really have to consider if you know things get knocked around with you.

plus if you are a guy with big hands *no rudeness* then a small body can be very uncomfortable in relation to a bigger brother, which is why its allways good as they say to test how it feels in your hands before ££££ out on it.

ontop of a camera as a remote, in your case id expect weather sealing to be a must.

 

[dunganick]

ontop of a camera as a remote, in your case id expect weather sealing to be a must.

Not been a problem so far, touch wood. I would like to move to a 1d Mkiii, whilst the cost of the body isnt such an issue, its the cost of glass to suit a 1.3 crop sensor that stops me. For the bikes, 300mm on a 1.3 crop just wouldnt be much use. The 400mm is well out of my budget and the 500mm isnt cheap either. I will see what happens in the new year when i buy up some new equipment, if the mkiii has dropped in price i may make the jump.

 

[GeordieClioDriver]

The 1000D is a cracking little camera, and only feels cheep compared to the XD or XXD Series cameras.

Dunganick, Go for the 1D, the 1.3x ist that noticeable! I went for it and never regretted it!!

 

[JJ!]

Whats your budget? I wouldn't count out Olympus TBH. Build quality is excellent too!

 

[dk]

The actual main housing which the camera is built on 'chassis' if you must is much much more robust than the lower counterparts, if you are working a camera hard it pics up lots of bangs and scrapes, the metal cased bodies from both brands will deal with this far better. A friend was quite hard going on her 400 and it didnt last long at all, her 7d has allready taken more abuse than this did. Its something people forget to consider imo

Add to the fact the extra weight and larger size makes them alot better to hold if you are hanging a big lens off the front.

ever heard of being careful with the camera?

I have not scratched or bashed mine and its been all over the place including up the top of Machu Picchu where i was having to climb up. So for most people i can't see this being an issue.

 

[extremeinferno]

thanks for all your helps gutys, tbh i don t think it matters to much wot its made from ive always been very carefull with my cameras and i can understand needing to be robust for the pros, but dont think im going to be going rock climbing or anything with it just yet.

jj budget is £400 tops realy never realy concidered olympus.

 

[RyanD]

Not been a problem so far, touch wood. I would like to move to a 1d Mkiii, whilst the cost of the body isnt such an issue, its the cost of glass to suit a 1.3 crop sensor that stops me. For the bikes, 300mm on a 1.3 crop just wouldnt be much use. The 400mm is well out of my budget and the 500mm isnt cheap either. I will see what happens in the new year when i buy up some new equipment, if the mkiii has dropped in price i may make the jump.

Honestly its not that bad, espec as a prime like a 300 2.8 takes a TC very well, heck even a 2x works fantastically well with mine on the mkII (much better than my 70-200 ever would). 400 2.8s are silly money now thanks to the sodding 30% price increase, it would cost me the same price second hand now as a new one did in jan = not cool. In the new year the mkiii the arse should have fallen out of the market when the jessops brigade all go for their shiny new mkivs.

Whats your budget? I wouldn't count out Olympus TBH. Build quality is excellent too!

I wouldnt touch anyone but canon/nikon imo if you want a big range of glass that is up to date, ok older established brands from the old 35mm days had some glass then which in most cases can be used but its just not up there with todays glass, and more 3rd party manufactuers make cheap new glass for canon/nikon. A few friends have found this out the hard way and thus have changed systems.

 

[GeordieClioDriver]

I've used olympus and i find that even there higher end cameras suffer from really bad noise at 400iso, the canons can handle it pretty well upto 1000iso, Not sure about nikons oher than the D3x lol and thats an expensive nikon!

 

[JJ!]

I have not disagree, some of the modern day Olympus glass is up there with the best.

There pro lenses and top pro lenses are just superb, plus there kit lenes are better quality than Nikon and Canon.

Yeah, there are less choices, but it depends if the OP wants from the camera!