Tripped up on this thread on google..
http://www.mini2.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-20089http://www.mini2.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-20089
I agree with the first bit of this and I red lined the CooperS works on Sunday with the dealer in the car!!!Quote: Originally posted by Liftnub on 22 September 2003
The second thing I noticed was the engine, the Cooper S had good pick up and felt really punchy. However, the engine in the 172 sounds so much better (or as my wife described it, much more manly). Also the kick you get in the 172 at around 5000 rpm is fantastic, there was no such boost in the Cooper S, which I thought actually made it quite dull in comparison. (This may have been beacuse the Mini dealer came with us on a test drive and wouldnt let us push the limits of the car),
The clincher for me was the pomposity of the BMW dealer. They just could not justify the price difference between a 172 and Cooper S of similar spec. They didnt even know you could get a Clio with an engine bigger than 1.4 (compare this to the Renault dealer, who couldnt praise the Cooper S enough). The Cooper S would be so much more appealing if it wasnt sold by BMW.