ph1 lighter than ph2 cup?

[Gez08]

As above is the ph1 lighter than a 172cup?

 

[Chris n nic]

I'm sure someone will post the exacts but iirc the Cup is lighter than the ph1 which is in turn lighter than the ph2 172

 

[Gaz_]

No, think the cup is still about 30kgs lighter

 

[motormadJ]

MK1 172 - 1035kg
Mk2 172 - 1110kg
172 Cup - 1011kg
182 - 1110kg
182 Cup - 1090kg
182 Trophy - 1075kg

 

[theduck]

As motormad posted, is about 20kg in it in favour of the Cup.

 

[Chrisjk]

So if you loose the spare wheel and tool kit in the ph1 and your not that far off.

 

[theduck]

spare wheel et al
Remove the tar sound deadening in easy to get to places like the spare wheel well, under boot carpet, under rear bench etc.

Prob see you about cup weight.

 

[Poopensharten]

MK1 172 - 1035kg
Mk2 172 - 1110kg
172 Cup - 1011kg
182 - 1110kg
182 Cup - 1090kg
182 Trophy - 1075kg

The Phase 1 weighs 1059kg's

So if you loose the spare wheel and tool kit in the ph1 and your not that far off.

If the spare wheel was made of lead then aye :S

 

[TimR26]

Thought the Cup is 80 or 90 kilos lighter than a 172 not 100kg??

 

[yellowbelly]

Who cares..... !!!

 

[jaysjetski]

Who cares..... !!!

too true, buy which ever suits you!!!!!

 

[Lagerlout]

The 172 Cup is 1021 kg. The ph2 172 is 1110 kg. Cup is 89kg lighter.

According to Renault.

 

[Andyman]

Who cares..... !!!

too true, buy which ever suits you!!!!!

Ignorance is bliss :lolup::lolup:

 

[Andyman]

Taken from Renault brochure:

Ph1 172 kerb vehicle weight = 1035 kgs

Ph2 Cup kerb vehicle weight = 1021kgs

 

[Fluxuk05]

Ahhhhh but its so pleasant sitting in 21 degrees in the summer in the Ph1

 

[chris_cup]

MK1 172 - 1035kg
Mk2 172 - 1110kg
172 Cup - 1011kg
182 - 1110kg
182 Cup - 1090kg
182 Trophy - 1075kg

slightly off topic, but what makes the 182 cups and trophys lighter/what's missing?

 

[chrispy.clio]

Makes me feel good. My 182 weighs 955kg saving 155kg, get in.

 

[Andyman]

slightly off topic, but what makes the 182 cups and trophys lighter/what's missing?

I dont think those figures you were quoting were right. Figures are all different depending on where you look.

182 1100kg's - thats not far off V6 weight so surely cant be right ??

 

[ForceIndia]

A Vee's approx 1360kg.

 

[Andyman]

geeezzz thats lardy

 

[Ian_182]

Theres only a bag of spuds in it.

 

[Poopensharten]

On the whole there not exactly heavy hot hatches with regard to bhp/ton, which imo is the most important figure of all when it comes to performance.

Weight is the achillies heel of power

 

[ForceIndia]

Weight is the achillies heel of power

Handling, agility, braking, etc

 

[Poopensharten]

Handling, agility, braking, etc

What you mean like weight distribution?

 

[Andi-B]

slightly off topic, but what makes the 182 cups and trophys lighter/what's missing?

Leather seats, Xenon kit and air con aren't in the 182 cup/trophy iirc

 

[Gaz_]

air con is on all 182's.......

 

[ripp]

btw, has anyone weighted their stock 1*2? I am STILL not sure what my car weight is, somewhere between 1090-1110 kg maybe..

 

[mark123]

All 182s have Xenons.

182 cup has cloth seats. Trophy has Recaros maybe that is the difference.

 

[Revels]

All 182s have Zenons.

182 cup has cloth seats. Trophy has Recaros maybe that is the difference.

A Trophy doesn't have xenons. Neither does a 182 Cup.

 

[mark123]

So if you loose the spare wheel and tool kit in the ph1 and your not that far off.

172 cup comes with jack, tool kit and foam instead of spare wheel.

 

[mark123]

A Trophy doesn't have xenons. Neither does a 182 Cup.

I stand corrected!

 

[ianysm]

On the whole there not exactly heavy hot hatches with regard to bhp/ton, which imo is the most important figure of all when it comes to performance.

Weight is the achillies heel of power

Torque to weight ratio is more important for everyday road driving! As above with regard to handling and braking though. Also all those with heavy alloys on the end of their hubs need to worry about unsprung weight! and watch out for missing spiggot rings!!!

 

[Wests Renault]

slightly off topic, but what makes the 182 cups and trophys lighter/what's missing?

182 cup has boggo interior, no cruise, no xenons just little things that save weight
trophy has recaro's (with no side airbags) and speedline wheels to reduce weight