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Pipercross viper vs ITG Maxogen?
- Thread starter Scoot
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ITG are very good and their AB65 airbox as used in the Maxogen kit is far better designed and 'works' more effectively than the Pipercross viper. The bigger brother of the AB65, the AB80 is used in WTCC, Seat Super Copa and various other 'proper' race cars.
I'd recomend you feed any airbox from a high pressure zone on the front of the car if at all possible though to aid filling and minimise losses.
Cheers
M
I'd recomend you feed any airbox from a high pressure zone on the front of the car if at all possible though to aid filling and minimise losses.
Cheers
M
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
I have a maxogen IK great mod imo.
S3 Sportback, Ninja
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....173594&cguid=5528355511d0a0aad1e45d44ff740342
This? how does it compare with the itg?
This? how does it compare with the itg?
Loved my old Viper and defo made the car pull better once all set up and in conjunction with other mods but the foam tore so went Maxogen.
Maxogen kit is amazing. Quality is second to non, you'll never need to buy another!
In terms of performance the Maxogen pulls better near the top end than the Viper but tbh not a great deal in it.
If your planning on spending a lot on the engine as a whole id go Maxogen but if your only going to put basic mods on and maybe sell your car with in say 2 or 3 years id go CDA
Maxogen kit is amazing. Quality is second to non, you'll never need to buy another!
In terms of performance the Maxogen pulls better near the top end than the Viper but tbh not a great deal in it.
If your planning on spending a lot on the engine as a whole id go Maxogen but if your only going to put basic mods on and maybe sell your car with in say 2 or 3 years id go CDA
You seem like a pretty clued up chap from reading your posts, what do you do for a living?
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Very expensive for no proven gain. I'd be more inclined to remove the acoustic valve, get an rs Tuner, spend £200 on a track day. You will gain more power with a custom remap than a maxogen/viper etc
I read somewhere you needed to be doing silly speeds to actually create enough force to warrant it being at the front on the car?
+1, I only have one as i got it for £190
+1, I only have one as i got it for £190
Over 50% money back for the person who sold you it
another plus point eh Definately, and ill easily get my money back for it aswell i thinkOver 50% money back for the person who sold you it
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Hillpower do a nice IK too
Personally i'd have my inlets matched before fitting an IK
Personally i'd have my inlets matched before fitting an IK
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In fact theres a hill power kit for sale in the EBAY section, buy it now price is £100
hmm tempting
hmm tempting
Chav Rocket
team manager for a racing team BPM i think. read his blog. very clued up guy indeed.
Technical Director for BPM, No 1 Mechanic for TW and Technical Engineer for Pectel Engine Control Systems. I keep busy
Cheers
M
In terms of aftermarket airboxes the ITG AB65/AB80 airbox is pretty much at the top of the game. Short of paying a lot of money to have a company design an induction/filtration setup specificaly for the requried application you'll struggle to outdo a well done setup with an AB65/AB80 at the heart of it.
Cheers
M
You'll need huge forward speed and a well designed inlet feeding the airbox to achieve any useful amount of positive pressure in the box at WOT, the amount of inducted air at full chat is pretty huge! However feeding the box from the front of car does help to negate losses and aid airbox filling therefore increasing efficency.
It's really a case of doing it properly but having said that induction pickup points which aren't directly in the airflow can work perfectly well with little loss.
Cheers
M
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Fair enough, but on the 1*2 clio's, regardless of the quality, the gains are low and unproven.
http://www.itgairfilters.com/downloads/clio172.pdf
Have a look at the above PDF. Test 3 is with an ITG AB65 based kit, Test 4 is standard. Tests were run about an hour and a half apart. Cox's rollers are used by FOMOCO, Triumph, PTP, Peugeot Sport etc. and as such are pretty well respected.
Cheers
M
Bit of a contradiction in your post there lol Gains are low and unproven. If there unproven how do you know the gains are low?
Its proven on modded engines, not sure about on its own but its not just about performance where the cost lays.
The kit is on another level purely in design and build which you have to take into consideration too.
If it was on a 225 I'd be telling you to keep the standard induction setup!
Point is there is no one solution for every car and what works for one probably won't work for another.
The 1X2 can benefit from changes to the induction/filtration setup. The 225 I've yet to see anything aftermarket make a positive difference, likewise for the 197.
Also I'd say the ITG AB65 based setup isn't really an induction kit, it is a proper airbox and designed as such. Induction Kit tends to conjour up images of a K&N filters on bits of drain pipe
Cheers
M
There is mate...mine comes on cam .23 secs quicker with the ITG panel filter quicker than it did with the standard one..
RS6+ & 40d MSport X5
well my R27 runs with a sock!!! dont say anything to any1 tho coz its for sale!!There is mate...mine comes on cam .23 secs quicker with the ITG panel filter quicker than it did with the standard one..
Had 20k clocked off it too!!
RS6+ & 40d MSport X5
Aye mate!!! Only crashed it 4 times too!!
RS6+ & 40d MSport X5
well the socks are from new look so they'r more or less tights lolTights are where its at, more filtration
