fred - ive seen a couple of zorsts on a mk2 172 where somehow you couldnt see the bottom 2" of the backbox, maybe the tailpipe was longer from the backbox so the backbox was a few inches further tucked away from the rear bumper, painted black ? or the tailpipe was positioned to be as near to the bottom of the backbox as possible (not centered anyhow) cant remember the post, deanos is much much better than some ive seen IMO, seem to remember the magnex oval pipe being one which is quite bad for showing off the backbox, dunno maybe Im ott when it comes to subtlety or getting old LOL !
Actually theres a guy in leeds even worse than me, within 72 hours of getting a new 182 he had a mk2 172 rear bumper fitted and a custom stealth system so the back of the car is identical to a 172, this must be unique LOL, I saw him whilst filling up with petrol, 04 plate 182 black gold with no pipes, very very strange to see but had a word with him and a look at car and its a 182 all right !