Questions about RS tuner

[Cliomaxx69]

Hi guys, I've been thinking about buying an RS tuner but I don't know much about them and don't want to spend money for nothing.
( 2002 172)
What are the abs and airbags modules for?

Do I just plug it on my OBD through my computer and I'm ready to map it?

Is it even worth buying one new? Can't seem to find used ones.

Any information is appreciated. Thanks.

 

[RustyMojo]

ABS module for reading faults with braking system, but particularly useful if you want to bleed the abs system as it can activate it. Airbag for fault codes with airbag system, particularly useful if you want to turn off airbag lights (after market seats and steering wheels)

you just plug it into the OBD port and your laptop yes it will read fault codes, provide data sets etc. If you want the maps you need to buy them from Henk, you will get one free I believe if you buy the unit new. If you buy a used one you will need to buy a licence and the map separately.
Hope that’s helps

 

[Cliomaxx69]

ABS module for reading faults with braking system, but particularly useful if you want to bleed the abs system as it can activate it. Airbag for fault codes with airbag system, particularly useful if you want to turn off airbag lights (after market seats and steering wheels)

you just plug it into the OBD port and your laptop yes it will read fault codes, provide data sets etc. If you want the maps you need to buy them from Henk, you will get one free I believe if you buy the unit new. If you buy a used one you will need to buy a licence and the map separately.
Hope that’s helps

That clears up a lot, thank you.
What's an average price for a map and where do I find Henk?

 

[RustyMojo]

It’s all here mate

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www.fastchip.nl

 

[imprezaworks]

Good luck. If you just need a map go to efi 👍👍

 

[Cub.]

As said, I’d use it for diagnostics and ABS etc, but the mapping can get problematic (locking the map on etc).

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Good luck. If you just need a map go to efi 👍👍

Where can I find him?

 

[RustyMojo]

Google EFI Parts will bring them up. What are you looking to achieve via a remap? What mods have you done to your engine?

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Google EFI Parts will bring them up. What are you looking to achieve via a remap? What mods have you done to your engine?

Okay, I was just thinking about putting the 98 map, my engine is bone stock as far as I know.

 

[RustyMojo]

Okay, I was just thinking about putting the 98 map, my engine is bone stock as far as I know.

Ok, I wouldn’t be wasting my time on a full remap on a stock car. It will make marginal differences. The 98 Ron map is meant to be a reasonable upgrade. But I wouldn’t bother unless you need/want to start diagnosing fault codes etc and as a result need an RS tuner. In terms of locking the ECU, I believe this doesn’t happen any more. Regardless it can be unlocked by a tuner if you mod the car to the level of needing a rolling road

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Ok, I wouldn’t be wasting my time on a full remap on a stock car. It will make marginal differences. The 98 Ron map is meant to be a reasonable upgrade. But I wouldn’t bother unless you need/want to start diagnosing fault codes etc and as a result need an RS tuner. In terms of locking the ECU, I believe this doesn’t happen any more. Regardless it can be unlocked by a tuner if you mod the car to the level of needing a rolling road

I've seen many people state that the 98 remap is awesome and makes the car much more enjoyable to drive daily so that's why I was interested. I don't necessarily need one but it's always useful to be able to read codes as well instead of paying Renault to do it so... I don't know, you tell me!

 

[RustyMojo]

Im not sure I read it makes it more responsive if I’m honest. Just smooths out the idle. I don’t have it loaded onto my car. Plan always was to but I’m unsure now. I use an RS tuner as a diagnostic tool. I bought mine second hand with no modules installed. It’s a nice bit of kit, but fairly useless without the additional modules in my experience. If I did it again I would buy a brand new one with everything available. Buying the bolt on modules doesn’t look like exceptional value to me, especially with some questionable service..

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Im not sure I read it makes it more responsive if I’m honest. Just smooths out the idle. I don’t have it loaded onto my car. Plan always was to but I’m unsure now. I use an RS tuner as a diagnostic tool. I bought mine second hand with no modules installed. It’s a nice bit of kit, but fairly useless without the additional modules in my experience. If I did it again I would buy a brand new one with everything available. Buying the bolt on modules doesn’t look like exceptional value to me, especially with some questionable service..

OK, thank you. They are pretty expensive with everything fitted!

 

[imprezaworks]

Efi are based in Runcorn mate. Search the reviews on here all positive.

Ive had various cars with maps etc and if i was to buy another Clio i would get efi to map. The 98 ron map is a good generic map. The one from efi is custom to your car and will find any issues live on the dyno.

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Efi are based in Runcorn mate. Search the reviews on here all positive.

Ive had various cars with maps etc and if i was to buy another Clio i would get efi to map. The 98 ron map is a good generic map. The one from efi is custom to your car and will find any issues live on the dyno.

Oh, I live in France ahah, I thought they could email it

 

[imprezaworks]

Ah, lol. But of a trek then

 

[DomP182]

I've seen many people state that the 98 remap is awesome and makes the car much more enjoyable to drive daily so that's why I was interested. I don't necessarily need one but it's always useful to be able to read codes as well instead of paying Renault to do it so... I don't know, you tell me!

I'll let you know how much of a difference the 98ron map makes after the weekend, fingers crossed its worth all the bother

 

[Cliomaxx69]

I'll let you know how much of a difference the 98ron map makes after the weekend, fingers crossed its worth all the bother

Thanks! Good luck with it

 

[banhama]

I bought a new RSTuner Premium a few months ago, and it has been very useful as a diagnostic tool so far.

Mine is a 182 track only car, which is why I bought the 'premium' version as it will log running data into the unit itself, whereas with the standard version you need the PC attached. I didn't fancy having a PC flying around the car on track! The idea is to record running data and send the log to Henk to have a customised map returned.
Hopefully I will get a meaningful data log on a trackday this coming saturday.

I have installed the 98 Ron map that came with the purchase, I can't say i noticed a huge difference but that may be because I only use the car flat out. The idle does seem smoother though.

 

[Cliomaxx69]

I bought a new RSTuner Premium a few months ago, and it has been very useful as a diagnostic tool so far.

Mine is a 182 track only car, which is why I bought the 'premium' version as it will log running data into the unit itself, whereas with the standard version you need the PC attached. I didn't fancy having a PC flying around the car on track! The idea is to record running data and send the log to Henk to have a customised map returned.
Hopefully I will get a meaningful data log on a trackday this coming saturday.

I have installed the 98 Ron map that came with the purchase, I can't say i noticed a huge difference but that may be because I only use the car flat out. The idle does seem smoother though.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm the total opposite, I daily drive my Clio and never bring it to the track so a smoother idle might be appreciated.

 

[R3k1355]

Yea the 98RON map from RSTuner is good, it does make the daily drive that bit better. Also the module is good for fault codes, which can save you plenty of cash.
If your idle is particularly rough, the main culprits are bad lambda sensors, bad injectors and incorrect cam timing.

Alot of the used units will be UK based, so there might be issues sending it to France. Buy a new one, it comes with a map and is ready to go.

 

[DomP182]

Yep I'd buy new, by the time Henk gets me my 98ron map sent over my 172 might be a pile of rust.

 

[McGherkin]

I bought an RSTuner for my 172. Imagine my dismay when I plugged it in to find it had already been mapped with the 98RON map.

Three times.

 

[Cliomaxx69]

I bought an RSTuner for my 172. Imagine my dismay when I plugged it in to find it had already been mapped with the 98RON map.

Three times.

As the young would say, bruh

 

[DomP182]

I bought an RSTuner for my 172. Imagine my dismay when I plugged it in to find it had already been mapped with the 98RON map.

Three times.

That saved you some grief then😃

 

[Cliomaxx69]

While we're all here, would I be able to turn off esp/serv lights with the RSTuner? They turn on intermittently and I can't find why.

And can it be a problem with insurers like if I did a stage 1 or something?

 

[RustyMojo]

While we're all here, would I be able to turn off esp/serv lights with the RSTuner? They turn on intermittently and I can't find why.

And can it be a problem with insurers like if I did a stage 1 or something?

I don’t believe you can. But it may indicate where the problem maybe, albeit that can be several things.

I’m not sure what stage 1 means in clio world if I’m honest.

 

[JamesBryan]

While we're all here, would I be able to turn off esp/serv lights with the RSTuner? They turn on intermittently and I can't find why.

And can it be a problem with insurers like if I did a stage 1 or something?

No you have to fix the fault.

 

[R3k1355]

And can it be a problem with insurers like if I did a stage 1 or something?

If you're in France we really can't answer about your insurance over there, most members are in the UK.

 

[banhama]

This is probably a stupid question but, if you install the 98 RON map surely you commit to using 98RON or higher fuel from then on???

So for someone using their Clio for a daily driver doing reasonable mileage isn't the extra fuel cost a consideration against any benefit given by the remap?

Once you install the 98 RON map is using 95 RON going to cause any issues?

I only use VPower in mine as it is purely a track car, but I'm interested as many owners seem to use the 98 RON map in their daily driver

 

[R3k1355]

Nah the ECU will pull timing if it detects knock, it's only a very mild map anyway.

Mostly it gives better driveability and better idle.

 

[finch wxm]

How do you know if the map is on ? I bought a rs tuner years ago and im pretty sure the map did load onto the car

 

[JamesBryan]

How do you know if the map is on ? I bought a rs tuner years ago and im pretty sure the map did load onto the car

When you scan the car, the info about the software version on the ecu will have FASTCHIP in blue.

Stick a screenshot on here of yours and i'll be able to tell.

 

[finch wxm]

When you scan the car, the info about the software version on the ecu will have FASTCHIP in blue.

Stick a screenshot on here of yours and i'll be able to tell.

Nice one , will take a pic when im hooked up to it , do you need to go into ecu information ?

 

[DomP182]

I very much regret paying for the unlock code and map, I'm still waiting for Henk to send it to me since Thilursday last week

 

[RustyMojo]

I very much regret paying for the unlock code and map, I'm still waiting for Henk to send it to me since Thilursday last week

Dom, this is exactly why I delayed. It’s a great bit of kit but that’s shocking!

 

[JamesBryan]

Nice one , will take a pic when im hooked up to it , do you need to go into ecu information ?View attachment 1560000

Yeah it's that ECU information tab there.

The bit that says prog tool will say Fastchip

 

[finch wxm]

Yeah it's that ECU information tab there.

The bit that says prog tool will say Fastchip

I see definitely didnt work then , wonder if it would still work if i tried ? 🤔 what would i need the email he gave me the code for

 

[DomP182]

Map finally arrived! Can I be a***d to sit in it in this weather to install it? Possibly not.

 

[Cliomaxx69]

Map finally arrived! Can I be a***d to sit in it in this weather to install it? Possibly not.

Come to Lyon it's sunny