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Rs tuner



  BG Clio 182 - Recaro
Hi guys

Are they really worth it, if so new or old?

I have a 182 ff, running at 186bhp with just a janspeed exhaust

Would I see gains?

Help needed!!
 
I want one for the diagnostic side of things and I've read a few times the cold starts are much better i.e. not lumpy idle.

The 98 ron map (I think its that?) will it be fine on normal unleaded petrol (i think thats 95ron?)
 
  clio 172 phase 2
They are worth it . Makes the clio sport alot better to drive not so much faster . Just sharpens things up . If you buy 98 ron map u have to use 98 octane fuel .
 
  RB 182
has anyone ever done a 'Pro's & Con's' for the RS Tuners?

i was looking into getting one but i wasn't sure of the good and bad points of having the motor mapped!
 

imprezaworks

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Mines mapped. Decatted rs192 and ktec induction kit, i noticed a difference, well worth it for the money. If you play it right you only have to fork out for the unlock code. And there isnt any cons, well apart from the fact you feel the need to press the right pedal harder lol
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Assuming you genuinely have 186bhp, it seems likely that you car already is remapped as it wouldnt do that on the standard software, even on a "freak" engine (the power outputs genuinely do vary quite a lot on the F4R)

So as to if you would gain anything, you might even lose it if you have a map on there currently that better suits the car than an RS Tuner one.


If your software is standard at the moment, then that power figure is a LONG way off IMHO
 
  BG Clio 182 - Recaro
Assuming you genuinely have 186bhp, it seems likely that you car already is remapped as it wouldnt do that on the standard software, even on a "freak" engine (the power outputs genuinely do vary quite a lot on the F4R)

So as to if you would gain anything, you might even lose it if you have a map on there currently that better suits the car than an RS Tuner one.


If your software is standard at the moment, then that power figure is a LONG way off IMHO


Had car serviced and set up on rolling road, not mapped though just settings changed, gain of 12bhp ( from 174bhp to 186bhp ) so is it best to stay away from a rs tuner. Runs very smooth

Any ideas?
 
  BG Clio 182 - Recaro
What does 98 Ron map do then apart from allow only v power fuel for instance to be used?
 

imprezaworks

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Reading between your reply, i can still use normal (not that i will) but it runs better on the good stuff?
 

imprezaworks

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Thsi is what it cost me

Buy second hand rs tuner £75 delivered
Buy unlock code £48.00 ish
Map i needed £0 had someone email me

Sold tuner within ten mins on here for £80 delivered, cost me aroung £7 i think for next day delivery.
Total spend £50

Car drives better, idles better and the power is all through the range.

So in a word, yes!!

:)
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Had car serviced and set up on rolling road, not mapped though just settings changed, gain of 12bhp ( from 174bhp to 186bhp ) so is it best to stay away from a rs tuner. Runs very smooth

Any ideas?

What "settings" did they change?

As TBH unless it was the temperature or pressure compensation on the rollers (ie no change in figure but just pretend there is), then short of a remap there arent any settings for them to change on an F4R that I can think of, other than the cam timing!
 

imprezaworks

ClioSport Club Member
  Mk5 Golf GTI :)
No idea and no idea. Its a good car though if you know what i mean. It feels quick enough so im happy
 
  BG Clio 182 - Recaro
Well it's on a map to say 186 bhp, they are a company that do rolling road days, I have used this company many times, ie no lies

Im not technical so I couldn't tell you what they did, they just plugged into ecu and did a few things, hour later there was a 186bhp increase

Feels more responsive and runs a lot better than it did

So I know they did something which increased 186bhp
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
Well it's on a map to say 186 bhp, they are a company that do rolling road days, I have used this company many times, ie no lies

Im not technical so I couldn't tell you what they did, they just plugged into ecu and did a few things, hour later there was a 186bhp increase

Feels more responsive and runs a lot better than it did

So I know they did something which increased 186bhp

"Lies" is a strong word, but I suspect if for example you take that car to the CS Surrey Rolling road day in Feb, it wont see the same figure by at least half a dozen bhp, different rollers read differently and you wont see that power on any of the ones that I personally use from that spec of F4R engine, but that doesnt mean yours are lieing, maybe the ones I go by read low instead.

If they "plugged into your ecu and changed a few things" then they remapped your car, so if you now put an RS Tuner map on, then you will be erasing what they did and replacing it with an RS Tuner map instead, which may make you LESS power as a result, or it may make you more, depending on how good a job they did of remapping it in the first place.

Who was it who did the work? as there are actually very few places that can actually remap the standard ecu on the clio.
How much did they charge you?
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
The 98 ron map (I think its that?) will it be fine on normal unleaded petrol (i think thats 95ron?)

Why do you think its called the 98 ron map?

Surely its because the person who wrote it is advising you that you risk engine damage if you run it on less? lol
 
  BG Clio 182 - Recaro
"Lies" is a strong word, but I suspect if for example you take that car to the CS Surrey Rolling road day in Feb, it wont see the same figure by at least half a dozen bhp, different rollers read differently and you wont see that power on any of the ones that I personally use from that spec of F4R engine, but that doesnt mean yours are lieing, maybe the ones I go by read low instead.

If they "plugged into your ecu and changed a few things" then they remapped your car, so if you now put an RS Tuner map on, then you will be erasing what they did and replacing it with an RS Tuner map instead, which may make you LESS power as a result, or it may make you more, depending on how good a job they did of remapping it in the first place.

Who was it who did the work? as there are actually very few places that can actually remap the standard ecu on the clio.
How much did they charge you?


I used a company called hi tech

They specialise in racing cars

I paid £850 for full service, Cambelt change, water pump and rolling road
 
  182/RS2/ Turbo/Mk1
I used a company called hi tech

They specialise in racing cars

I paid £850 for full service, Cambelt change, water pump and rolling road

I would imagine most of the gains you saw were down to the belt change, as if the timing was wrong to begin with and they corrected it then there would be good gains to be had :)

What did you pay them to do on the rolling road though?
Just check its power? Or adjust it? If adjust it then adjust what?
 
  Alfa GT Cloverleaf
When I bought my car it had a rolling road printout in the service history from this hightech, which showed 185BHP or something
My close friends own a japanese tuning comany called tuning developments, so i asked them to put it on their rollers as i knew they would give me a truthful readout, they use dyno dynamics rather than something from the dark ages lol.
Anyway my car pulled the usual 170 odd BHP....

Safe to say the print out from high tech went in the bin!
 
  RB 182
Chip, i know you know your shiz..

are there any disadvantages to remapping your car on a regular basis?

i was planning to get an RS Tuner, run the 98 map or performance map and maybe change over to pops and bangs every couple of weeks for the weekends.. when i go out to play.

everything just seems too good to be true.. mapping your car makes it run better etc, surely Renault would of done it from standard etc etc??
 
Renault did the mapping to emissions regulations. aswell as other bits and pieces they have to abide by. iirc the engines are euro 3.

No Harm in changing the between the 2, it just shows on the ECU log how many times its been changed.
 
  RB 182
thanks for the reply mate :)

so there's no real disadvantages?

i'm really hesitant to do things like this, i'm too in love with my car ha ha

because from what i can see - you map your car, it gains power (sometimes), runs smoother, and sounds better (again, sometimes haha) - all round Pros!
 


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