Severe Juddering While turning at low speed ....

[Ross M]

seems like the cars slipping round when i turn at very low speed and just violently judders.
whats the problem ??

anything to do with camber and alignment ?

ta

 

[riz]

struts?

 

[Da]

No, it's quite normal. Do a searck for 'skip'. I've heard that it's the tyres, they are too wide at the front for the wheelbase when on full lock so the tyres skip!

 

[172.com]

Mine does that too.

Example - full lock, sub 5mph, wet tarmac. Seems to slip and skid, quite a weird sensation. Glad I'm not the only one.

 

[Ross M]

hmm :S ive never had it before though in over 2 years of ownership im sure.

exactly how 172 says ...

maybe i have had it but just not realised till now

 

[Da]

It does it more so when tread levels are low.

 

[Munson]

Mine has always done it. As said above, particularly when the tread is low. It's almost like a geometry problem - the inside wheel on a car always turns a tighter radius than the outside...it feels like this is all wrong at full lock on the Clio.

 

[riz]

always happens in a car park

 

[The Seer]

Mine does it to too. Just an idiosyncracy of the 182's 205 profile tyres.

Found it odd at first.

 

[Munson]

There's no logical reason why the tyres, regardless of width, should skip and scrub if the geometry is correct. My guess is that approaching full lock, the turning radius is incorrect. I guess the tyres may make it worse, but I don't reckon they're the cause IMHO.

 

[crispy5974]

I'd never noticed this problem before when reversing with full lock off my drive - however when I lowered my 172 it put the tracking right out and I started getting this really bad juddering when on full lock at slow speeds.

I reckon you should get the tracking done to be safe, it only costs about £20 - which is nothing compared to the cost of new tyres; the bad tracking could be eating them like it did with mine!