Shall i buy some TOYO proxes T1-s? are they good?

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

195-50-15's for my 172,

£30 each delivered. Is this a good price?

More to the point, are they any good??!

 

[16vMK2 to 172Sport]

Yes get them!!! Had them on my golf gti, and for the money, they are quite possibly the best tyre pound for pound out there. Only downside, being fairly soft and grippy they will only last about 12months on the front (give or take depending on driving). Dry grip is always plentiful, but where i was overly impressed with them was the handling in the wet... they give you so much confidence round corners of all speeds, and when you do push to the limit in the wet and the grip starts to go, the tyres are incredibly pridictable in their behaviour, and control is easilly gained!

QUALITY TYRE!!

Sounds a good price, mine were about £30 fitted on 7J x 15 rims

 

[drhowser]

what that man said^^
mind you, i did a set in 4k!!

 

[tjhmortimer]

Yeah, I had a set last year on a zetec-s. Went to Italy and back and the front 2 needed replacing soon after I returned. Very good grip though for the price. Mine had quite a large wheel rim protector aswell......

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

TJHMortimer, weren't you in East 17??

Ok, looks like i'll order a set of these then.

 

[Djw John]

I wouldnt. Id get Eagle F1GSD3 or if its for track use pretty much exclusivly get some yokos. Not a big fan of my current toyo t1r

 

[V1NNY]

goodyears for me over toyos anyday

 

[Andyman]

Try the Parada's. Far better tyre and value for money.

http://www.rtecshop.com/index.php?p=product_view&product_id=7662

 

[kirton]

Yes! but are the T1-R's not the replacement to the S?

 

[Se7en172]

Buy Conti-Sports.
Brilliant tyre.
Proxes wear fast and are poor in the wet

 

[Rich]

I would go for the F1's over them too.

 

[White16valver]

Yes get them!!! Had them on my golf gti, and for the money, they are quite possibly the best tyre pound for pound out there. Only downside, being fairly soft and grippy they will only last about 12months on the front (give or take depending on driving). Dry grip is always plentiful, but where i was overly impressed with them was the handling in the wet... they give you so much confidence round corners of all speeds, and when you do push to the limit in the wet and the grip starts to go, the tyres are incredibly pridictable in their behaviour, and control is easilly gained!

QUALITY TYRE!!

Sounds a good price, mine were about £30 fitted on 7J x 15 rims

What.

The.

f**k.

Were you driving on the same tyres as I was?? :S

T1-S are HORRIBLE.

Their wet grip is shocking - you have to tickle it round a corner as it'll grip a bit then just snap away, leaving you heading towards a solid object with no indication that you're going to regain grip in time.

Not only that but they have no 'bite' on turn in - they just roll over onto the sidewalls, leaving you with smooth shoulders and the rest of the tyre with loads of tread left. Not exactly much use as you then have to throw them away or risk 3 points / £60 fine...

If I had a choice of Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 on 195/50 or the T1-S in the same size, I would go for the F1s 101 times out of 100. No joke.

Get the F1s and I challenge you to find a better wet tyre.

[/rant] lol

 

[Djw Dave]

Go tagree with that wee rant there! And thats me using the supposdly improved T1Rs, still pish!

Djw John

 

[vts_saxo]

Toyo's are really over rated imo, they are awful in the wet although not as bad as the tigers i bought once . You cant go wrong with eagle F1's, i had them on my williams and thought they were great and quite cheap.

 

[Ricardinho]

30 quid each though!

you cant go wrong for that, ive had them in the past and liked them a lot, didnt last long though as said

 

[White16valver]

F1 GSD3 are like £35 from mytyres.

Personally I'd rather spend an extra £20 on F1s than an extra £2000 on insurance over the next two years after writing the car off due to having no wet grip!

 

[Dan R]

T1r,s are much better. better edge to them and better in wet.

 

[Rage]

i got them, cant fault. amazing =]

some people rave about the t1r's but had both and honeslty cant tell a diffrence =]

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

they won't get used in the wet... does this make a difference? They're going to be a sort of a road legal track car.

 

[Rich]

I had no issues with them in the dry, they just wore out quickly.

 

[Djw John]

T1r,s are much better. better edge to them and better in wet.

Thank God Ive never had the S in that case

 

[NOT! gary l]

Yes get them!!! Had them on my golf gti, and for the money, they are quite possibly the best tyre pound for pound out there. Only downside, being fairly soft and grippy they will only last about 12months on the front (give or take depending on driving). Dry grip is always plentiful, but where i was overly impressed with them was the handling in the wet... they give you so much confidence round corners of all speeds, and when you do push to the limit in the wet and the grip starts to go, the tyres are incredibly pridictable in their behaviour, and control is easilly gained!

QUALITY TYRE!!

Sounds a good price, mine were about £30 fitted on 7J x 15 rims

What.

The.

f**k.

Were you driving on the same tyres as I was?? :S

T1-S are HORRIBLE.

Their wet grip is shocking - you have to tickle it round a corner as it'll grip a bit then just snap away, leaving you heading towards a solid object with no indication that you're going to regain grip in time.

Not only that but they have no 'bite' on turn in - they just roll over onto the sidewalls, leaving you with smooth shoulders and the rest of the tyre with loads of tread left. Not exactly much use as you then have to throw them away or risk 3 points / £60 fine...

If I had a choice of Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 on 195/50 or the T1-S in the same size, I would go for the F1s 101 times out of 100. No joke.

Get the F1s and I challenge you to find a better wet tyre.

[/rant] lol

Gotta agree with that, ive seen various threads about these tyres and i will say the same, they are crap, im seriously dissapointed with them, unfortunately i never read reviews here, just on other places which said they were good:nono:

Never again will i buy a toyo tyre, im trying to drive as hard as possible to get them worn down and replaced but that is a bit tricky as even with sensible/moderately hard driving you do not feel safe, in the dry they are acceptable but after any kind of precipatition has hit the ground cornering is non existent.

Avoid like the plague

Buy at you're peril.

 

[Peperami]

they won't get used in the wet... does this make a difference? They're going to be a sort of a road legal track car.

Scrap that idea mate.

Yokohama paradas are going for £40 delivered on ebay, 195/50/15s.

Ive just swapped a set of toyos for these, worlds apart in dry grip. Worlds apart.

 

[Djw John]

Never quite understood why some people rate toyos so highly tbh :S

Dan, hows the wet grip of the paradas?

 

[Peperami]

Went out for a play tonight, once you get used to it and drive smooth its not at all bad. Not great with standing water, and easy to get the car to understeer/ lose the rear should you choose to though.

All round far better tyre than the toyos were, sooo controllable. And in the dry once warm, by far the grippiest tyre ive used.

 

[Martin_172]

im on my 3rd set of F1 GSD3's in a year went thru 4 on my 1.2 so bought another 4 and then when my PE2s on my 172 were done i went for F1's and prefer them to the PE2's that were on it!

 

[Alex_X93]

sounds crazy but I rate avon zv3's they are an almost unheard off british made tyre designed in this country on british roads. had falkens and various yokos, proxies and trust no european designed tyres will match avons for handling and grip on our s*&t roads wet or dry...

 

[Alex_X93]

Avon zv3's are amazing go buy a set designed in uk on british roads trust they are much better than any european designed tyre on s^*t British roads wet or dry............

 

[Loki]

got to agree very good tyres i went from avons to f1's and crashed the b*****d car then in my stupid state i got more f1's on my next car and rolled that so based on my own experiance i wouldnt touch f1's again ive used much better tyres that were cheeper just my opinion

sounds crazy but I rate avon zv3's they are an almost unheard off british made tyre designed in this country on british roads. had falkens and various yokos, proxies and trust no european designed tyres will match avons for handling and grip on our s*&t roads wet or dry...

 

[Butler205]

I find Toyos fine wet or dry. F1's ones are better and last much longer, so actually better value.

My current T1S's are now bald all round so going back to F1's. I notice T1S's do go off. The wet weather performance is terrible for the last 3rd of their life.



If you crashed and rolled your car on F1's, I think you need help, not new tyres.

 

[ado]

Went out for a play tonight, once you get used to it and drive smooth its not at all bad. Not great with standing water, and easy to get the car to understeer/ lose the rear should you choose to though.

All round far better tyre than the toyos were, sooo controllable. And in the dry once warm, by far the grippiest tyre ive used.

Agree with you there dan. They are so controllable especailly near the limit.

As for water they didn't cope too bad with the river at the bottom of paddock.

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

they won't get used in the wet... does this make a difference? They're going to be a sort of a road legal track car.

Scrap that idea mate.

Yokohama paradas are going for £40 delivered on ebay, 195/50/15s.

Ive just swapped a set of toyos for these, worlds apart in dry grip. Worlds apart.

Paradas it is then. If they're good enough for you, they're good enough for me! lol

 

[16vMK2 to 172Sport]

What.

The.

f**k.

Were you driving on the same tyres as I was?? :S

T1-S are HORRIBLE.

Their wet grip is shocking - you have to tickle it round a corner as it'll grip a bit then just snap away, leaving you heading towards a solid object with no indication that you're going to regain grip in time.

Not only that but they have no 'bite' on turn in - they just roll over onto the sidewalls, leaving you with smooth shoulders and the rest of the tyre with loads of tread left. Not exactly much use as you then have to throw them away or risk 3 points / £60 fine...

If I had a choice of Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 on 195/50 or the T1-S in the same size, I would go for the F1s 101 times out of 100. No joke.

Get the F1s and I challenge you to find a better wet tyre.

[/rant] lol

Gotta agree with that, ive seen various threads about these tyres and i will say the same, they are crap, im seriously dissapointed with them, unfortunately i never read reviews here, just on other places which said they were good:nono:

Never again will i buy a toyo tyre, im trying to drive as hard as possible to get them worn down and replaced but that is a bit tricky as even with sensible/moderately hard driving you do not feel safe, in the dry they are acceptable but after any kind of precipatition has hit the ground cornering is non existent.

Avoid like the plague

Buy at you're peril.

Well actually, i was running T1-S front and T1-R rear, and dont forget it wasn't on a Clio (short wheel base, therefore tendancy to break away quicker then longer wheel base cars). Must be all your ultra hard moddified sus. set ups giving you crap wet grip

I can actually honestly say that in the wet i had more confidence round corners with my Toyos then i do now with the Conti sports on my Clio.

 

[White16valver]

From that statement I can only assume that Conti's are even worse than Toyos LOL :rasp:

And re: breakaway - I don't think I've ever had the back come round on me - I drive slow in, fast out - but I get understeer aplenty from the Toyos.

Seriously crap wet weather performance!

If anyone wants to compare then come round and we'll go to a wet airfield and you can try my set of T1-S and my set of F1s back to back - then tell me which is better!

 

[16vMK2 to 172Sport]

I think the T1-S are obsolete now anyway lol Maybe the tarmac is different down here in the south??

last season a particular racing formula (the name of which escapes me) had Toyo Proxes as their regulation tyre, so cant be as sh*t as everyone here is saying. I can remeber alot a jags running with them... must have been some sort of classic series. . .