shift light

[cat171]

How anyone can take a standard 172 to 5k revs or more is beyond me, they sound absoloutely awful !! There is nothing good about the noise the car makes at all, nor is there anything thing good about the '5k kick' that most seem to get off over on here.

Also if you drive past someone doing over 5k revs in it they'd just think you were an idiot who didn't know when to change gear.

- I'll answer the question before it's asked. Yes I have driven a 172 a lot of times.

 

[Rich]

Peak power at 7K and max torque at around 6K without doing it they are slow.

Nothing to do with getting moist over the 5K kick, but the fact it is just coming on cam there is fairly important. Changing up at 5 it must be crap in the next cog.

 

[Iridium]

I haven't driven a 172 for years - but I don't remember it sounding bad. The 197 sounds epic over 5k rpm though And DEFINATELY kicks at 5krpm ish - its very noticeable in 2nd/3rd. The higher you rev the 197 the better it sounds. Although, this has nothing to do with the thread in question heh. Apparently renault spent a lot of time working on the high end RPM sound of the 197, using the 4-2-1 and tuning the exhausts etc.

 

[Rich]

My 182 used to sound fine over 5K - yeah not the sexist sound in the world, just induction noise.

 

[Peperami]

How anyone can take a standard 172 to 5k revs or more is beyond me, they sound absoloutely awful !! There is nothing good about the noise the car makes at all, nor is there anything thing good about the '5k kick' that most seem to get off over on here.

Also if you drive past someone doing over 5k revs in it they'd just think you were an idiot who didn't know when to change gear.

- I'll answer the question before it's asked. Yes I have driven a 172 a lot of times.

If i drove an amv8 id think the v6 sounded crap, its all relative mate.

 

[Iridium]

The V6 sounds like it's hurting itself over 6krpm heh. I used to change, when really going for it, just shy of 7k in 2nd, then 6.5k for the rest of the gears. And I felt bad doing that heh. But the 197 just laps it up - feels like it just revs harder and harder and it would go to 9krpm given the chance, and just keep getting quicker! Doesn't tail off at all.

 

[cat171]

Peps, True fella , but standard 172's do sound sh*t when ragged.

 

[cat171]

The V6 sounds like it's hurting itself over 6krpm .

I agree with that too, lambo sounding they ain't !

 

[Peperami]

Peps, True fella , but standard 172's do sound sh*t when ragged.

I like the noise mine makes

 

[Ads_172]

Lol, agreed. Cat, are you perhaps comparing the noise the 2.0 litre makes, compared to the v6?

 

[Spongebob 172]

mine sounds really throaty when i took it up to 7k last night(2000 172)..maybe it has something to do with the scorpion exhaust

 

[cat171]

Lol, agreed. Cat, are you perhaps comparing the noise the 2.0 litre makes, compared to the v6?

No, i'm not saying that at all.
I'm saying that a standard 172 sounds sh*t when ragged, which imo it does !

Iridium (dan) said that also a vee doesn't sound that good above 6k either, I said I agreed.

 

[edde]

The light comes on just around max engine power - meaning change, then you drop back down into the power band. Remember these engines don't even show all their love till after a heady 7krpm.

Its just a warning of getting close to the limiter not max power

 

[Merk]

I've never been in a "standard" 172, but I love the noise of mine as it revs, full stainless exhaust is probably why.

 

[Ads_172]

Lol, agreed. Cat, are you perhaps comparing the noise the 2.0 litre makes, compared to the v6?

No, i'm not saying that at all.
I'm saying that a standard 172 sounds sh*t when ragged, which imo it does !

Iridium (dan) said that also a vee doesn't sound that good above 6k either, I said I agreed.

Fair enough, I've just always thought the engines sound fine in high revs. Not the greatest engine noise known to man, but purposeful and aggressive.

 

[Iridium]

The light comes on just around max engine power - meaning change, then you drop back down into the power band. Remember these engines don't even show all their love till after a heady 7krpm.

Its just a warning of getting close to the limiter not max power

Both are true - I agree it is a warning of getting near the limiter, but it does conveniently come on at about the max power output point People in this thread are saying it comes on at 7krpm, which, as again someone said in this thread is about where the engine is making it's most.

 

[Mells]

Peps, True fella , but standard 172's do sound sh*t when ragged.

I agree, sounds like its going to fall apart after 5k!

4-5k in 4th sounds cool though.

 

[cat171]

Yes !! Finally someone who agrees with me

 

[Ads_172]

Lol, it'll be one of thsoe "agree to disagree" things!

 

[pecan]

I stand corrected then. I'm not sure where I read that it was an optimum shift light, I thought it was the manual but obviously not. :/

 

[Se7en172]

I will have to get some sound clips of my 172 cup up, anything over 4.5rpm sounds superb, I do have a full yozza system, matched and ported inlet manifold, new sports cat (helps) and schrick cams! When it comes on cam it sounds awesome, very addictive. It's beastly.

 

[ant_wales]

A 172 below 5k is slow, you have to change later than that to get the actual performance out of the car!

 

[T-Bag]

I'm fairly sure it was referred to as optimum shift light in one of the older buyers guides on here. I can't find the guide at all now. I saved it onto my pc from here before I bought my car and remember thinking that it sounded cool... I know it's not correct but i wonder if thats where it came from originally.

edit - nm found it http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=276875

Some cars have an “optimum gear change indicator” light on the dash, this was advertised by Renault to be in all the cars but it seems it’s mainly the W and some X reg cars.

 

[pecan]

^ Probably, I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked this up from somewhere. I was starting to feel lonely.

 

[Lagerlout]

It's a common mistake lol

And that 'buyers' guide is pretty s**t tbh. Far too biased and emotive and quite clearly written by a ph1 172 owner lol!