Slow clio, fast CTR.

[Schweppy]

I know its been discussed many times before but after badly losing to one, my car now feels slow. LOL. I know i am rubbish at changing gear but surely they arent that much faster??

Anyone else had a play with one?

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

CTR isn't exactly a rocket.

Drivers make all the difference remember if you're next to each other going through 3 gears, if you take your time with each one and he smashed the s**t out of his, he'll pull away.

 

[Schweppy]

Yeh i know, i've always been rubbish at changing fast though. 172s always keep up with me no probs

 

[*Danny*]

well thay have got around 212bhp havnt they thats lyk 30 more than a 182... 1 kinda obliterated me on my driving lesson yesterday the v-tec rely did kick in lol

 

[Schweppy]

Nah they r only like 190 i thought. It was an old shape one.

 

[AlexS]

All CTRS's are 197 im not sure if its PS or HP. Its probably easier to change gear faster in the CTR as the gear box is much nicer.

 

[*Danny*]

sure i read sumwer they wer 212:S

 

[caeteez]

well thay have got around 212bhp havnt they thats lyk 30 more than a 182... 1 kinda obliterated me on my driving lesson yesterday the v-tec rely did kick in lol

Quite sure its not 212bhp. Think their just a shade under 200bhp, but think they are slightly heavier than the 182.

 

[Djw John]

197bhp and yeah just down to the driver.

Your car aint slow mate, you are! Get some practice in!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

JDMs are 210 and UK specs are 197 I believe.

 

[Schweppy]

197bhp and yeah just down to the driver.

Your car aint slow mate, you are! Get some practice in!

how can i get better?

Always change too slowly and too late. lol

 

[caeteez]

You might have got the 212bhp from Forza lol, swear I've seen it as 212 on there. But dont forget they also have the 197 as having 197bhp .

 

[*Danny*]

JDMs are 210 and UK specs are 197 I believe.

wernt far off then if it wus a JDM lol

 

[caeteez]

how can i get better?

Always change too slowly and too late. lol

There are some good vids on Youtube of driving techniques. Just search it up, thats where I learned the basics of revmatching/heel and toe.

 

[Djw John]

197bhp and yeah just down to the driver.

Your car aint slow mate, you are! Get some practice in!

how can i get better?

Always change too slowly and too late. lol

Practise practise and more practise!

By too late do you mean you hit the rev limiter?

 

[Schweppy]

how can i get better?

Always change too slowly and too late. lol

Practise practise and more practise!

By too late do you mean you hit the rev limiter?

Yeh lol!

 

[Djw John]

Surely you know when you're getting to the top of the rev range, again though you just need practise and experience

 

[Christopher]

JDM EP3's are 212hp and have an LSD, HID's amongst other extras. K20C, same as the DC5 Integra

UK EP3 has 197hp and uses the fed-spec K20 due to emissions, as used in the US-spec Civic Si but with a few differences and not all had aircon

tbh, i've had squirts with a UK car and there was nothing in it.... the fella even acknowledged me afterwards, rare for a Jap driver. lol

 

[Dan Page]

182's are so easy to drive fast lol. shift light and change lol!

 

[*Danny*]

sed they were 212 lol

 

[AlexS]

I haven't driven a 1*2 for some time so I can't remember the peak time to change, if its anything like my car it goes supersonic at 5k and hits the limiter at circa 7k, if im going for it I usually let it rev to about 6.5k so get ready around 6k. Soon as it hits that sweet spot, dip the clutch and slam it into the next gear.

 

[caeteez]

I want to see a Mugen CTR in the flesh, bet they would show the 182 a clean pair of heels . Rare as rocking horse sh*t here though eh?

 

[Dan Page]

Civic EK's and EG's FTW

After going out in a EG VTI the other day its safe to say they would rinse an EP or 1*2!!!

 

[Christopher]

I want to see a Mugen CTR in the flesh, bet they would show the 182 a clean pair of heels . Rare as rocking horse sh*t here though eh?

nah, what you need is an EK9 with a K20C lump/LSD and a Jackson Racing supercharger. :evil:

edit - just seen Dan's post! ...he knows the fcuking score.

EK9 FTW

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Use all available revs in 1st and 2nd, then shift a little earlier in 3rd and hold onto 4th unless you're going to use 5th in which case shift the same time (a few hundred rpm before the limit).

That's my advice and I don't even own a 182!

 

[Dan Page]

LMFAO Chris.

The one i went out in was on coilovers, TEG LSD, all the camber arms and anti roll bars done and everything. Fanimold, well basic breathing mods.

I felt sick when i got out! LOL it was an experience....

 

[D1CKY]

Civic EK's and EG's FTW

After going out in a EG VTI the other day its safe to say they would rinse an EP or 1*2!!!

Would they ?

I never realised they were that quick. :S

Aint they 160bhp or summit ?

 

[Christopher]

LMFAO Chris.

The one i went out in was on coilovers, TEG LSD, all the camber arms and anti roll bars done and everything. Fanimold, well basic breathing mods.

I felt sick when i got out! LOL it was an experience....

Nice!

I fcukin love 'em!

Was it an EK? what engine... B18 with the LSD? :evil:

 

[Christopher]

Civic EK's and EG's FTW

After going out in a EG VTI the other day its safe to say they would rinse an EP or 1*2!!!

Would they ?

I never realised they were that quick. :S

Aint they 160bhp or summit ?

UK-spec EG/EK's are 167hp

 

[Dan Page]

I think there 158bhp standard and im sure there under a ton in weight.

They ALL put out 158bhp bog standard too apparently unlike the 182 (mine give 166bhp as standard and that was one of the most powerfull standard ones of the day).

So straight away the power to weight ratio in the civic is better aint it...

 

[Dan Page]

It was an EG6 VTI with the B16A2 and a LSD off an integra he said....

VTEC just kicked in y0!

LMFAO Chris.

The one i went out in was on coilovers, TEG LSD, all the camber arms and anti roll bars done and everything. Fanimold, well basic breathing mods.

I felt sick when i got out! LOL it was an experience....

Nice!

I fcukin love 'em!

Was it an EK? what engine... B18 with the LSD? :evil:

 

[Christopher]

ahh, my bad. sure they were more :S

still rapid little fcukers though

 

[Christopher]

It was an EG6 VTI with the B16A2 and a LSD off an integra he said....

VTEC just kicked in y0!

Nice!

I fcukin love 'em!

Was it an EK? what engine... B18 with the LSD? :evil:

B16! nice!

reet screamer!!

 

[Dan Page]

When i've sold the quicksilver (its nearly done now) im 90% certain im going to get one for a second car. This lads had 120k miles on it, original engine and gearbox and pulled like a train! And the sound, fuckin awesome! Like a 600CC bike

 

[fuel_slut]

CTR is quicker.

 

[Soulless]

CTR are generally marginally quicker,
alot is down to driver.

 

[Bluebeard]

In all of my 172's i've never lost to a CTR. I've had modded ones and standard ones and i've always won the great 'Ring Road Race' lol

Andy, you are a poo driver.

 

[Ali]

std for std an RS will lose.

My old 172 beat one! Driver was Podgy tho.

 

[sh33n]

JDM EP3's are 212hp and have an LSD, HID's amongst other extras. K20C, same as the DC5 Integra

UK EP3 has 197hp and uses the fed-spec K20 due to emissions, as used in the US-spec Civic Si but with a few differences and not all had aircon

tbh, i've had squirts with a UK car and there was nothing in it.... the fella even acknowledged me afterwards, rare for a Jap driver. lol

DC5 has K20A; EP3 has K20A2.

 

[Christophe]

i had a tussle with one not so long ago and lets say he was on my bumper for a while. This is on a straight road no corners.