superchips site 172MKII

[phill*]

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/cliosport.pdfhttp://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/cliosport.pdf

http://www.superchips.co.uk/car/frameset.htmhttp://www.superchips.co.uk/car/frameset.htm



apparently these are a great company, they will even come to your work any can do the job in as little as an hour. cheapish.. not bad. My brother is having this company superchip his Mondeo Zetec S TDCI 130PS up to about 150+ bhp 380 torque.. 30-70 is gonna be 5.4 ish!! costing him about £500+ though because of massive gains, and his is not detectable where as the 172s version is detectable and thus will invalidate waranty.. shame

 

[Griff]

380 what?!?! I doubt its lb/ft!!

 

[phill*]

dunno prob 380NM same or little bit more as my dads merc 2.7T CDI althought that weights about 1900kg+ still its rapid in mid so cant imagine what 1700kg mondeo is gonna be 5.4 30-70 seems too quick but a review suggest its possible with one of these chips.

 

[KDF]

They only problem with the superchip is still that it wont take mods into account, its an "off the shelf" item.

Plus the unichip is just a piggyback chip so you can easily put it back to standard if you so wished.

 

[phill*]

cool.. what bhp gains can i expect from Dastek unichip?? is it possible to increase the performance of my car in terms of speed.. i.e 0-60 or 30-70 maybe a higher topend? how much is it

 

[steve a]

Unichip is fully maped to your car and it modifications (if any?) it will yeild better gains throughout the rev range. Where as a superchip is just off the self and will not give the same gains.

Also if you were to modify your car after having it chiped then only the unichip can be reprogramed.

 

[steve a]

O and unichips vary from £400-500 depending on where you take it. But dont forget this includes your car being fully set up on the rolling road.

 

[phill*]

so if i add the ktec cat system for 7bhp then what gain can i expect from dastek (obviously at your best guess) please

 

[RB_172]

Well this is my car before / after having a unichip fitted.

Car is standard except for the magnex twin 3.5" exhaust.

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1064054067__graph.jpg

 

[phill*]

wow! so you must get a faster 0-60 time than 6.9/7.0 now?? can i get the same result if i fit a kteccat (7bhp claim) with a simular exhaust end to my current standard or perhaps more? 188bhp

i only interested in facts like 0-60 30-70 and toplinespeed (obviously you wont have gone up to the clios 146 mph to test yet. but really 188bhp must give you a faster 0-60 (is it about 154bhp at wheel now then?) thankyou

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by phill* on 24 November 2003

cool.. what bhp gains can i expect from Dastek unichip?? is it possible to increase the performance of my car in terms of speed.. i.e 0-60 or 30-70 maybe a higher topend? how much is it

A Dastek is a fantastic bit of kit...

My old 306 Rallye has got one fitted now and combined with other mods its really made a big difference!

 

[Rich-D]

Thats the same kind of graph we got from RE in Bury, so they must use the same system...

What was the @ wheels figure mate, for both before & after!

 

[phill*]

have you done any times now you have 188bhp??

 

[RB_172]

Sorry, that was all I got really in terms of figures!

Havent been anywhere to do any times yet either.

It just helps balance out the weight of the ICE in the boot!

 

[McBunny]

well i have 152 at the wheels with just and exhaust and decat lol

 

[m@thew]

just looking at that graph both the before and after seem to show peak power and much lower rpm than expected

 

[Gary Brown]

Quote: Originally posted by m@thew on 24 November 2003

just looking at that graph both the before and after seem to show peak power and much lower rpm than expected

When I had mine done (RRd) in the summer, the x axis scale was 1000rpm out, and it looked pretty similar to the one above (though not as powerful!). Adding 1000rpm would make it all seem right again, ie VVT should make the power curve steepen at about 5000 revs, not the 4000 shown, and peek power would be more realistic at 6800 rather than 5800?

 

[Gary Brown]

Quote: Originally posted by Gary Brown on 24 November 2003

Quote: Originally posted by m@thew on 24 November 2003

just looking at that graph both the before and after seem to show peak power and much lower rpm than expected

When I had mine done (RRd) in the summer, the x axis scale was 1000rpm out, and it looked pretty similar to the one above (though not as powerful!). Adding 1000rpm would make it all seem right again, ie VVT should make the power curve steepen at about 5000 revs, not the 4000 shown, and peek power would be more realistic at 6800 rather than 5800?

Nah, forget that - Im clearly talking b****cks, as the torque peak looks right, and the VVT steepening is at about 4500. I really shouldnt drink wine and type at the same time...

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by m@thew on 24 November 2003

just looking at that graph both the before and after seem to show peak power and much lower rpm than expected

Yeah, my peak power was at 6565rpm and others were higher!

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by Gary Brown on 24 November 2003

When I had mine done (RRd) in the summer, the x axis scale was 1000rpm out, and it looked pretty similar to the one above (though not as powerful!). Adding 1000rpm would make it all seem right again, ie VVT should make the power curve steepen at about 5000 revs, not the 4000 shown, and peek power would be more realistic at 6800 rather than 5800?

You do know that the VVT on this engine kicks in at 1800rpm and is not used like other systems to give a power surge at higher revs, but simply to allow a lumpy cam to be used yet maintain a smooth/steady idle with low emmissions?!

The power surge at 5000rpm is not VVT...

 

[m@thew]

to start with id only looked at the bhp and now that i look at the torq the figures look all wrong. It shows standard to be over 170 and after it to be over 180. the bhp standard line also starts at 0rpm