Superguard

[Rhino172]

When buying a new car from the dealer. Priced at £300. Worth it?

 

[JD]

Nope. Next?

 

[glenn_adam_doble]

Nope spend the money on some of your own detailing products that you can use again and again

 

[Chip-mk1]

Nope not even vaguely, its 20 quid of product, is an hours labour to put on, and then is just an enormous chunk of profit for them.

TBH I would think even people who sell heroin to kids would blush at the margins that dealers make on superguard, it really is properly immoral.

 

[Rhino172]

Lol thanks chaps. Thought as much. I've got plenty if bits at home. Think I'll stick a few coats if z2 on. Should do the job!

 

[Jaff.]

So what exactly is this super guard then?

​sealant?

 

[Rhino172]

Yeah just looks like a nano sealant from what he showed me. He said it would prevent swirl marks when washing the car. I struggled not to laugh at that point.

 

[yellowbelly]

Yeah just looks like a nano sealant from what he showed me. He said it would prevent swirl marks when washing the car. I struggled not to laugh at that point.

Yet you've contemplated going for it?


I've got a chocolate fire guard for sale if you're interested?

 

[Rhino172]

Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. How big is it? Could do with some chocolate

 

[GrahamS]

NO I went on a paint course once. The chap said it completely stops the lacquer doing what it's suppose to do...breathe

 

[Bluebeard]

Nope not even vaguely, its 20 quid of product, is an hours labour to put on, and then is just an enormous chunk of profit for them.

TBH I would think even people who sell heroin to kids would blush at the margins that dealers make on superguard, it really is properly immoral.

Oh my god. A business is trying to make money?? How very dare they.

 

[yellowbelly]

^valid point

 

[Jaff.]

Can someone explain exactly what this is?

​if its a sealant how can it be that bad? Unless its no a sealant? Then what is it?

 

[Bluebeard]

Can someone explain exactly what this is?

​if its a sealant how can it be that bad? Unless its no a sealant? Then what is it?

Nobody can, not even the supaguard rep! It's largely a load of tosh but it does seem good value to a customer (Who isn't into car cleaning) wanting to protect their brand new £15k purchase.

I've got 10-odd kits at work. (Had them for years!)

Basically, they are sold as a protective package for the customers new car. A polish/sealant type thing, an interior scotchguard fabric protection spray and an aftercare kit for the customer which consists of alloy wheel cleaner, 2 microfibres, top up polish, bird crap disolver and some car shampoo.

Usual price at a dealers is £299 ish, and that obviously includes the application of the product and a big aftercare kit for the customer to take home.

You get a 3 year guarantee with it too. So if a bird s**ts on your car and it etches into the lacquer, Supaguard will pay for the repair. Same with interior spillages on the seats/carpets etc.

Basic kits can be bought on ebay for £20 and under but the big kits that the dealers are 'supposed' to give the customer used to cost the dealer £45+vat to buy. Plus paying the valeter to apply the product prior to delivery, plus filling out and sending off the guarantees.

 

[Jaff.]

It doesn't sound too bad in the grand scheme of things then

​if you ignore the silly price tag of course.

 

[Tony Hunter]

I've got a chocolate fire guard for sale if you're interested?

​Chocolate doesn't burn.

 

[PBCup]

I wouldn't have it for free. Last thing I want is a dealer touching my paint.

Tell the dealer that you dont even want it washing before you pick it up and either buy some good gear or book it in for a detail.

 

[Bluebeard]

I wouldn't have it for free. Last thing I want is a dealer touching my paint.

Tell the dealer that you dont even want it washing before you pick it up and either buy some good gear or book it in for a detail.

What if you don't care about micro swirls and polishing it with unicorn sperms?

99% of the car buying public wouldn't be able to tell if the cars had a £600 detail or the dealer has done a standard valet.

 

[Matt W]

I wouldn't have it for free. Last thing I want is a dealer touching my paint.

Tell the dealer that you dont even want it washing before you pick it up and either buy some good gear or book it in for a detail.

I wasn't allowed to collect mine unless they cleaned it first. Swirl marks all over!

 

[yellowbelly]

When taking my old Audi into a dealership for a service I told the lady when I booked in that under no circumstance do I want it washed/cleaned whatever. I also put a post it note on the dash and also another in the service book. I then even rang during the day to reiterate it. Thankfully they listened

 

[yellowbelly]

​Chocolate doesn't burn.

Chocolate melts Tony, however if you put a bar in a pan on high heat for half an hour I bet you'd see it burn.
​

 

[Gally]

Like some have said. I wouldn't accept it for free.

 

[Jaff.]

Like some have said. I wouldn't accept it for free.

Why though?

if its free and essentially a sealant what's the problem?

how is it different to your gtechniq cquartz etc.?

 

[Gally]

Mate I don't have enough time in the day to tell you how different they are.

One is a real sealant. The other is fancy water. I know this because we re-apply the stuff to people's cars.

 

[Jaff.]

Ok then, so to the 90% of people who aren't as anal about cleaning as you or me for example what's the reason for not having it if it makes it easier for them to wash it? Especially if the dealers throw it in for free or for a few £

 

[Gally]

Well I disagree. 90% of customers won't ever know if it's still working. It doesn't bead and sheet water like ceramic sealants.

It's ironic that it's about 5x more expensive than a proper ceramic sealants!

 

[Jaff.]

But for example (sorry if this is annoying you but this product really irritates me lol) a guy in work has it on his brand new (few years old now) Toyota iq and he's convinced it stays cleaner. He does say the car seems harder to wash but overall he's happy with the product.

this guy likes to keep his car (Astra) clean with a brush and is happy with the results he achieves. I'd say this guy is in the majority looking at how many people use sponges to clean their cars and throw the remaining water in the bucket to rinse off the car at the end?

 

[Tony Hunter]

Chocolate melts Tony, however if you put a bar in a pan on high heat for half an hour I bet you'd see it burn.
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Pan would melt first.

 

[yellowbelly]

Pan would melt first.

What sort of poor quality pans you using. Struggling to find out if you're trying to be clever, funny or what. Yet to fathom it out

 

[Tony Hunter]

Don't bother.

 

[yellowbelly]

Don't bother.

​Ok. I'll leave you to try and burn some chocolate

 

[mi16chris]

It's a load of crap my work sell it , the stuff for the inside smells like pear drops tho lol I've a few tins of it lol

 

[Tony Hunter]

​Ok. I'll leave you to try and burn some chocolate

Did you ever try those chocolate cigarettes, I could never light one, cost me a fortune in lighters.

 

[yellowbelly]

Did you ever try those chocolate cigarettes, I could never light one, cost me a fortune in lighters.

Don't smoke sorry

 

[Tony Hunter]

Don't smoke sorry

​You'd be fine with those chocolate ones, they don't burn.

 

[Knuckles]

NO I went on a paint course once. The chap said it completely stops the lacquer doing what it's suppose to do...breathe

This isn't meant to be offensive, I'm genuinely interested... I've never heard of lacquer breathing, care to elaborate?

 

[yellowbelly]

​You'd be fine with those chocolate ones, they don't burn.

​Btw you are aware chocolate does in fact burn right

 

[Tony Hunter]

Well, I could never get one going, so gave up.

 

[yellowbelly]

Well, I could never get one going, so gave up.

Probably the crap pans you're using

 

[Tony Hunter]

No money for the meter.