Tape back ups :s

[cava83]

Erm,

We have an AIT 2 drive.

Need to replace tapes.

Currently doing the son father Gfather routine.

Currently using this tape which is around £40 each,

Have spotted this one for half the price.

What are your views on R-MIC ?

Also, do you guys use any companies for off site backups,

f**king hate tapes.

 

[Daz]

Tapes are still the best really.

 

[McBunny]

we use lto 4 800gig/1.6TB and an lto2 for exchange damn fast they are too full backup every night every fourth friday goes off site and stays there forever.

we are implimenting a stretched san though to an offsite location with all our servers in a stretched cluster so we have complete failover solution tis nice

 

[cava83]

McBunny,

Stop showing off you git

This is only a small company.

Budgets apply you know

 

[sn00p]

Backup? Tell me more of this strange thing you call "Backup".

 

[McBunny]

buy a second hand lto2 drive ? gives you 200gb native and is much faster

ait is such and old technology drop it and move on lol

 

[KDF]

Tape.. bah..

Get with the century guys.. offsite automated backups FTW..

Tape is horrendously unreliable/slow/linear etc

 

[cava83]

KDF,

I know

What company do you use, how do you go about it and costing?

Only need to backup 60 gigs worth really.

Also, whats the availability like, i.e restoring stuff.

Thanks,

Gabi.

 

[KDF]

We don't use a company, we use private offsite servers. We were using Veritas Backup Exec 10 (but it was s**t and kept failing) I wrote custom software to do the job as I wanted very specific things. However a good off-the-shelf item I found was bacula (google it )

The daily backups give us the last 7 days.
The weekly backups give us the last month
The montly backups give us the last 3 months.

We have a full local backup that is replicated offsite on a nightly basis and also a full weekly/monthly backup. All backups are done to auto-healing RAID5 array (ye they should probably go RAID6 but heyho )

Restoring is not a problem as a local full online backup is also kept. Only in a total disaster scenario would we need to fall back to the offsite backups.

There are no tapes to change etc and all backups have automated verification checks done on them.

 

[McBunny]

We don't use a company, we use private offsite servers. We were using Veritas Backup Exec 10 (but it was s**t and kept failing) I wrote custom software to do the job as I wanted very specific things. However a good off-the-shelf item I found was bacula (google it )

The daily backups give us the last 7 days.
The weekly backups give us the last month
The montly backups give us the last 3 months.

We have a full local backup that is replicated offsite on a nightly basis and also a full weekly/monthly backup. All backups are done to auto-healing RAID5 array (ye they should probably go RAID6 but heyho )

Restoring is not a problem as a local full online backup is also kept. Only in a total disaster scenario would we need to fall back to the offsite backups.

There are no tapes to change etc and all backups have automated verification checks done on them.

thats what we are going to do will check out bacula

 

[cava83]

Impressive.

We have veritas too. V10, it's attrocious.

Might need some guidance, will sort you out on the piss (maybe not, you're up up up up north )

Would that be ok ?

We don't use a company, we use private offsite servers. We were using Veritas Backup Exec 10 (but it was s**t and kept failing) I wrote custom software to do the job as I wanted very specific things. However a good off-the-shelf item I found was bacula (google it )

The daily backups give us the last 7 days.
The weekly backups give us the last month
The montly backups give us the last 3 months.

We have a full local backup that is replicated offsite on a nightly basis and also a full weekly/monthly backup. All backups are done to auto-healing RAID5 array (ye they should probably go RAID6 but heyho )

Restoring is not a problem as a local full online backup is also kept. Only in a total disaster scenario would we need to fall back to the offsite backups.

There are no tapes to change etc and all backups have automated verification checks done on them.

 

[McBunny]

we use arcserve thats awful too

 

[dk]

if you want to get rid of tape and the change data each day is not great then consider something like vbak

http://www.protocolni.co.uk/vbak/

it goes offsite each night via their WAN and then you only need access a web browser to restore i think.

We too use LTO as above and Backup exec 12, tape is a f**king nightmare though, always something going wrong every night be it soft errors, hard errors, library errors, VSS errors etc.

Backup is the bain of my life, going to hand it over to someone else very soon thnak god.

 

[KDF]

Impressive.

We have veritas too. V10, it's attrocious.

Might need some guidance, will sort you out on the piss (maybe not, you're up up up up north )

Would that be ok ?

We don't use a company, we use private offsite servers. We were using Veritas Backup Exec 10 (but it was s**t and kept failing) I wrote custom software to do the job as I wanted very specific things. However a good off-the-shelf item I found was bacula (google it )

The daily backups give us the last 7 days.
The weekly backups give us the last month
The montly backups give us the last 3 months.

We have a full local backup that is replicated offsite on a nightly basis and also a full weekly/monthly backup. All backups are done to auto-healing RAID5 array (ye they should probably go RAID6 but heyho )

Restoring is not a problem as a local full online backup is also kept. Only in a total disaster scenario would we need to fall back to the offsite backups.

There are no tapes to change etc and all backups have automated verification checks done on them.

Ye no worries..

sometime soon im gonna add some encryption routines into it soon aswell.. blowfish or something as the data is unencrypted, although it is transmitted over an encrypted tunnel.

 

[Mike_182]

BE10 isn't too bad - granted it's not the latest and greatest piece of software in the world but we back up 100-odd servers on a daily basis using it and only 3 fail consistently, with Domino backup (don't ask!) exceptioning when a database is being compacted:

One of the fails is because VSS won't start on one of the servers - it's in the process of being binned. The other two fail because they're on the floor and not plugged into anything - I ought to hold the jobs really.

BE10 can be as good, or as bad, as you set it up to be IMO. If you don't know what you're doing with it it is fairly easy to get it all out of shape and failing, which is why it's been slated recently, but it's plenty good enough for ITV amongst others so I wouldn't be so quick to write it off

We use a months worth of daily local backups, but offsite every week 3 LTO4s to Iron Mountain as well as our DR.

 

[KDF]

Its not a setup problem, trust me.

BE10 will just randomly fail for different reason, like it will say the local disk is full but there is still at least 10gig free :S

Or it will say it could not load the media ?? but the media IS loaded ?

Or about 100 other different reasons its given for failing.. I'm glad at least one person is having sucess with it though.

 

[p3t3r]

If its only a small company, and your on a tight budget with only 60GB data to back up then just get a USB external hdd and keep it off site, sorted