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The future of tuning?
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The Boosh!
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Elise, Duster
VTES just kicked in y0
R27, Deep Black
^ lol. Cool find.
Fletcher
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Interesting...
Hi all,
I'm new on the forum. (I'm french, so sorry in advance for my english
) Fisrt of all... Damn it's good to be on an english Forum !!!
You Brits are the greatest lovers of fasts cars in the EU !!! And, as I am, addicted to RST cars like the Clio. (I own a 197)
Back to the main topic :
This new kind of electric forced admission is something very (very) interesting.
I really think that it can be a very good way, not to increase max HP, but to have more response at low revs (a real issue with the 197 phase1)
I tried to open a topic on a French forum about it... without being successful in having some real (lets' say) intelligence in the replies...
Anyway, I think I am now with the right persons
Did anyone tried such product yet ? I cannot find any on the French internet stores, maybe in the UK it has already been tested.
I really think that an electric turbo is the cheapest and most efficient solution to give some extra power at low revs.
Thanks if anyone has information on that. I'm quite interested !
UK rules !
I'm new on the forum. (I'm french, so sorry in advance for my english
) Fisrt of all... Damn it's good to be on an english Forum !!! You Brits are the greatest lovers of fasts cars in the EU !!! And, as I am, addicted to RST cars like the Clio. (I own a 197)
Back to the main topic :
This new kind of electric forced admission is something very (very) interesting.
I really think that it can be a very good way, not to increase max HP, but to have more response at low revs (a real issue with the 197 phase1)
I tried to open a topic on a French forum about it... without being successful in having some real (lets' say) intelligence in the replies...
Anyway, I think I am now with the right persons
Did anyone tried such product yet ? I cannot find any on the French internet stores, maybe in the UK it has already been tested.
I really think that an electric turbo is the cheapest and most efficient solution to give some extra power at low revs.
Thanks if anyone has information on that. I'm quite interested !
UK rules !
ClioI Ph.3 1.6 16V
What I´d like to see is a compressor map of that VTES....
And I think you have to redesign your complete electrical Sytem....1,7kW is a word...
And I think you have to redesign your complete electrical Sytem....1,7kW is a word...
1,7 KW is huge indeed.
I saw on an american forum a guy that user "lipo" batteries, the same kind used in modelism (small electric planes)
The guy switched on his VTES using a button, but this would only work during some minutes, using the "lipo" batteries power.
Once switched off, the lipos would recharge using the car batteries.
cannot find it again...
And another one : http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/09/cpt-vtes-20090922.html proving VTES really to be the future of tuning
I saw on an american forum a guy that user "lipo" batteries, the same kind used in modelism (small electric planes)
The guy switched on his VTES using a button, but this would only work during some minutes, using the "lipo" batteries power.
Once switched off, the lipos would recharge using the car batteries.
cannot find it again...
And another one : http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/09/cpt-vtes-20090922.html proving VTES really to be the future of tuning
ClioI Ph.3 1.6 16V
May be for the US-Market where cars only have to fast on straight road...
Additional Batteries always mean more weight, also lipos are pretty heavy. For me tuning is to reduce weight and not to increase. I want to have a good handling, too.
They shall show a flow chart like e.g. Rotrex does: http://www.rotrex.com/pdfs/Rotrex_Technical_Datasheet_C30_Range_V4.0
For the C30-74 I calculated for the area of best efficiency (76%), pressure ratio 1,9 and 0,16kg/s, a power input of about 20 kJ/s, what is 20kW...so they tell me that they can do it with a 1,8kW motor, that itself also has no 100% efficiency ...I don´t know...
Nevertheless, also Rotrex is working on electric assisted superchargers.
http://www.rotrex.com/index1.htm Go to "Technology" and then "Research and development".
Additional Batteries always mean more weight, also lipos are pretty heavy. For me tuning is to reduce weight and not to increase. I want to have a good handling, too.
They shall show a flow chart like e.g. Rotrex does: http://www.rotrex.com/pdfs/Rotrex_Technical_Datasheet_C30_Range_V4.0
For the C30-74 I calculated for the area of best efficiency (76%), pressure ratio 1,9 and 0,16kg/s, a power input of about 20 kJ/s, what is 20kW...so they tell me that they can do it with a 1,8kW motor, that itself also has no 100% efficiency ...I don´t know...
Nevertheless, also Rotrex is working on electric assisted superchargers.
http://www.rotrex.com/index1.htm Go to "Technology" and then "Research and development".
Cup and R6
good find.
my 2p worth...
i do like things like this - at least someone in the world is looking forwards...
i often wondered about 'electric' forced induction... but i don't really see how it could be applied to retro-fit to our renaults with 12v systems.
we'd either need a boot full of batteries, charging through regen-braking...or perhaps an impeller or something in the exhaust or perhaps an alternator the size of a Twingo, and some power cabling stolen from a pylon...
one day...i'll figure out a CVT mechanism to use my rotrex with...i reckon a couple of rev'n'rip mopeds could be biting the dust...
good thread. i do like things like this...
EDIT: Although I just noticed the date on the thread...
my 2p worth...
i do like things like this - at least someone in the world is looking forwards...
i often wondered about 'electric' forced induction... but i don't really see how it could be applied to retro-fit to our renaults with 12v systems.
we'd either need a boot full of batteries, charging through regen-braking...or perhaps an impeller or something in the exhaust or perhaps an alternator the size of a Twingo, and some power cabling stolen from a pylon...
one day...i'll figure out a CVT mechanism to use my rotrex with...i reckon a couple of rev'n'rip mopeds could be biting the dust...
good thread. i do like things like this...
EDIT: Although I just noticed the date on the thread...
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