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Looking for advice on cams / future NA build (Clio 182)

Car  Clio 182
Hi all,


I'm after a bit of advice from people who have been down this route already.


My Clio 182 is primarily a hillclimb car, although it's still road legal. Current spec is:


  • RS Tuning remap (175bhp)
  • Decat
  • Performance exhaust
  • Performance induction kit
  • Quaife ATB LSD
  • Lightweight flywheel
  • ARP rod bolts
  • Baffled sump

The long-term aim is to build the best naturally aspirated F4R I reasonably can over the next few years. I'm not looking for a turbo conversion or engine swap.


Originally I was looking at buying:


  • Cat Cams 422
  • Full OEM timing kit
  • OEM dephaser
  • OEM water pump
  • Camshaft seal/hardware kit
  • Then possibly uprated valve springs while it's apart.

I've priced it all up and it comes to roughly:


  • £1,124 without springs
  • £1,278 with uprated springs

I'd then still need to get it remapped afterwards (probably back at RS Tuning), so the total project cost would end up somewhere around £1,700-£2,000.


However, I've also been looking at the Engine Dynamics Level 2 package (£1,799), which includes:


  • Their custom Piper cams
  • Timing belt kit
  • Cam seals
  • Oil & filter
  • Labour
  • Dyno before/after
  • ECU calibration

On paper it seems like really good value considering the labour and mapping are included.


My questions are:


  1. Has anyone run the Engine Dynamics Piper cams? How do they compare to Cat 422s?
  2. If your goal was the strongest naturally aspirated engine possible over time (ported head, maybe higher compression later etc.), would you still choose the Engine Dynamics package or would you go Cat 422s?
  3. Would you fit uprated valve springs while doing the cams, or stick with OEM?
  4. Is there anything else you'd replace while it's apart?

Finally, because my car is already mapped by RS Tuning, I'm wondering whether it's better to continue developing the car with one tuner, or whether people have switched between RS Tuning and Engine Dynamics without any issues.


I'd really appreciate hearing from people with first-hand experience rather than just catalogue figures.


Thanks!
 
Hi,

Happy to provide some advice based on my experiences.

I compete regularly in my Clio182 and I'm usually in the top three with several class wind in1B over the past couple of years, so reasonably quick car.

You mention R/S Tuning so are you 'local to Leeds and do you compete at Harewood?
 
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