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Thinking Of Supercharging My 1.4



  Megane R26 + 182
Any one ever done or hurd of any one doing this? Its a nippy car as it is at 100bhp and is lighter then the 1.6 and 2.0 clios. Think i will put the same supercharger as the one in the Mini Cooper S! Why you guys think?

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  Megane R26 + 182
I dont know but thats what its says on parkers, pretty much as quick as well when you look at the figures, lower insurence group as well!!!
 
  306 GTI-6
I agree, it would be a waste of the money IMO unless you have a way of doing it on the cheap. Having said that, if your car doesnt fit into the cliosport stereotype most people will tell you its a waste of money. So if you want to, do it, interesting project.

Your cars smart by the way.
 
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  R35 GTR
If it was all about the money I would have never spent what I have on my 182. If you really want to do it and are prepared to say good bye to alot of money then do it.lol.

I would pick a different car though.
 
  Megane R26 + 182
My test the water and get some figures, but im only 19 so insurance might be hard gettin aswell. Looks like i will just have to get a 197 next summer then! Thanks for the comments lads! James
 
  LY 182
brakes will need uprating to match, discs all round etc.

I wouldn't bother if it was me.
no they wont.


drums pull up just as well (infact better) than discs.


my 172's on 1.2 brake setup and refuse to change it as it stops me from 120+ effortlessly and quickly
 
Please tell me you're joking?

Youve put a 1*2 engine in a 1.2 and not upgraded the brakes?

But yeh, drums are better. The Veyron has drums on the rear IIRC.
 
  LY 182
Please tell me you're joking?

Youve put a 1*2 engine in a 1.2 and not upgraded the brakes?

But yeh, drums are better. The Veyron has drums on the rear IIRC.
come back to me when you know what you are talking about.

did i mention fitting a veyron engine?

do you have brake rollers at your disposal?

assuming the answers to the above are yes, take a clio with rear discs, and a clio with rear drums and put both in the rollers and tell me the braking efforts..

as you cant do this i'll tell you what the results will be, drums pull up quite alot better.


i've actually had to lower rear braking pressure with a bias valve as they were producing too much effort
drum brakes are well known to be better than discs, have you never seen chevvy v8 ac cobra kitcars running sierra rear drums??


the only disadvantage to drums is they fade quicker due to heat build up, but if you can get get the rears to fade on a clio i'll buy you a medal.

fronts i'll admit are having problems with fade, but effort wise they are perfect.



oh, and no need for the snotty comment unless its justified either.
 
So why does every car manufacturer go through the extra expense of putting discs on the rear instead of drums on high powered cars?
 

Pep

ClioSport Club Member
  M2,XJS,S1000RR
ditz is right, i know a lot of people in the drifting world with lower powered cars convert from rear discs to drums.
 
  LY 182
partly aesthetics, mainly down to customer demand.

i'm not denying discs are the better option, but i'll happily argue the fact that drums are MORE than up to the job for my application, as 1 i've done it and tested and 2 i know of plently of cars knocking on the doors of 3 times the power/ torque output on sierra rear drums as i mentioned..


dont forget the 1.2 16v setup is from a williams, and my car weighs about the same as a williams now.

the 1.2's so overbraked as standard its fine.
 
  Megane R26 + 182
The breaks on my 1.4 are very very very good, out break nearly everyone, had a couple of cooper s drivers drive my car and they were very impressed with them!! It may be a light car which also helps.
 
  LY 182
ditz is right, i know a lot of people in the drifting world with lower powered cars convert from rear discs to drums.

exactly, you get alot more "bite" from drums due to the self servo action,,

the extra bite is required to initiate a drift, and as you lot with discs will know the handbrakes on calipers (the inboard drum setups arent so bad) are frankly awful.
 
Fair enough, Id just feel comfortable having more bite.

My brakes are shite and are in desperate need of an upgrade.
 
The breaks on my 1.4 are very very very good, out break nearly everyone

really? in what scenario do you outbrake nearly everyone? on track?

Ditz... You sound like you've fully tested your brake setup, so fair play it obviously works. I'm just speaking from experience of my 172 and 182 standard setups suffering from fade after prolonged track use... so assumed the 1.2 setup would be worse.
 
  Megane R26 + 182
The breaks on my 1.4 are very very very good, out break nearly everyone

really? in what scenario do you outbrake nearly everyone? on track?

Raceing a lotus exige comein up to a roundabout doing 140 took me four car lenghs to get down to 40!! He crashed! I was pi55ed beacuse we were racing for pink slips aswel!

That never happed.

But dont take "out break nearly everyone" as me sayin its the best car on the road, jus in my class of car.
 
Back to the supercharger idea, complete waste of time & money. You may aswell just get a 2.0 engine for it.
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
No. Just no.

Think it through. By the time you've had found a charger, fabricated the charger mounts, figured out where you're getting drive from, changed the inlet manifold (yours is plastic and won't hold at higher forced induction pressures), upgraded the injectors, rigged up the IC setup, found an stand-alone ecu to run it etc etc etc.

Stick to the tried and tested F4R (1*2) engine... and save yourself spending a lot of money for no reason.
 
  Snatch with DIY mods.
No. Just no.

Think it through. By the time you've had found a charger, fabricated the charger mounts, figured out where you're getting drive from, changed the inlet manifold (yours is plastic and won't hold at higher forced induction pressures), upgraded the injectors, rigged up the IC setup, found an stand-alone ecu to run it etc etc etc.

Stick to the tried and tested F4R (1*2) engine... and save yourself spending a lot of money for no reason.



:lolup: WERD.
 
  black 3 door clio 1.2 16v
heya bud id like to see how you get on as id love to do something like this with my 1.2 16v!! small turbo/sc engines are the way forward!!

look at jap cars starlet etc 1.3 turbo n fast as fuk lol

if u could find out whats involved in the conversion id love to try it to
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Too much work tbh, you'd need one-off mounts, drive belts etc etc etc... as i said above.

Not worth it on a Clio. If you want to go that route, buy a GT/Glanza and a paper bag to wear whilst driving the ugly little fcuker.
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
its only worth doing if you can do all the work yourself (well apart from maping) so its costing you parts only. if your getting someone to do it, forget it!

still wont be that quick but will give a nice low down torque gain, we supercharged an MG ZR and what a difference it made in day to day driving!
 
Any one ever done or hurd of any one doing this? Its a nippy car as it is at 100bhp and is lighter then the 1.6 and 2.0 clios. Think i will put the same supercharger as the one in the Mini Cooper S! Why you guys think?
The mini supercharger etc is a good idea loads of popwer need some uprated injectros and cvlutch realy for big power maybe use water injection or intercoler or bother to keep power but with stock internals your always gonna be limited a greek or italian magazine turboed a 1.4 years back and got just over 180 I think on stokc internals but the car always had trouble apparently and was sold but not sure if it was running high ron fuels etc which would have helped with power. for big power you'd need to spend a lot but 160ish should be simple and safe enough,.
brakes will need uprating to match, discs all round etc.
Stock brakes at the front are the same as fitted to the williams which was rallied and had 150hp stock so there fine rear are drums but there fine as well.
But yeh, drums are better. The Veyron has drums on the rear IIRC.
There fine for use.
182bhp with 1.2 brakes?
rather you than me.
Whats the problem there were used on 150hp cars so a few more isn't an issue.
So why does every car manufacturer go through the extra expense of putting discs on the rear instead of drums on high powered cars?
Because it sells differentiantes the models and helps the marketters and for racing they need it.
 


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