To those who dis the Ecotek CB26P

Jon1978 · Sep 17, 2003

Interesting... the one fitted on my current car is great. Mid range acceleration is much improved and fuel economy... well I do an average of 57mpg. Need I say more.

As for the noise, you could hear a sort of breathing noise when it was first fitted, but now 20,000miles later, there is no noise whatsoever, and hasnt been any since about 500miles after fitting. Maybe cos I had it fitted by an approved dealer/fitter.

Does anyone have any good experiences of one fitted on a Cup?

Matty · Sep 17, 2003

Should make a noise. If mine doesnt I check it and set it up like when it was fitted.

I find I get nearer 400 miles out of a tank in my valver with it working, about 350 with it off. Does seem to accelerate smoother too. I also got mine fitted properly and didnt bodge it on.

Rich-D · Sep 17, 2003

Ive had one and tried it, so I am in a position to "dis" the Ecotek.

Most people just sl*g it from what others say, but I have one next to me now and it will not be going on my Cup!

scotty16v · Sep 17, 2003

what is it?

BenR · Sep 18, 2003

If you needed to get it fitted by an approved dealer its no wonder you think its great.

Its crap, end of.

Fatherted · Sep 18, 2003

they are great.......just like the magnets that people put round their fuel pipes....!!!

(i didnt even know there was "approved dealers" !!).....well.......except the bloke down the road that sells block/green in bags !!

Jon1978 · Sep 18, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by scotty16v on 17 September 2003
what is it?

Its a little valve that fits onto the brake servo vacuum pipe, and improves your fuel economy and mid range performance.

See www.ecotekplc.co.uk or .com, not sure

Jon1978 · Sep 18, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 18 September 2003
If you needed to get it fitted by an approved dealer its no wonder you think its great. Its crap, end of.

Well, mate, theres no point in fitting things to a warrantied car, f***ing it up, and having to fork out sh*t loads of money. Of course, for engineering masterminds like yourself it would be a walk in the park. Also what has it being fitted by an approved dealer got to do with it being great? It works. Proof is in the experience.

spirez · Sep 18, 2003

has it reduced your braking performance any? honestly now!

Jon1978 · Sep 18, 2003

Honestly... no. Or, put is this way, I have not noticed any change, and have had to make a few fast stops! I mean if you were racing or had a more mechanical mind than mine, there may be a change, but I can honestly say, that I have noticed no change on the brakes

16vneil · Sep 18, 2003

They are crap, how exactly do u think it improves it

may be on an old crapped out ford with blocked air filter but apart from that its sh*te.

Rich-D · Sep 18, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by spirez on 18 September 2003

has it reduced your braking performance any? honestly now!

No, never made a difference to the brakes on my 306

Jon1978 · Sep 19, 2003

To 16V Neil... Before fitting, fuel consumption figures
were:
1. Around town - 15 to 40mph = 27 to 30mpg
2. Motorway - 60-85mph = 38-48mpg
3. Extra-urban - 30-55mph = 30-36mpg

After fitting:
1. 33-43mpg
2. 50-60mpg
3. 36-46mpg

0-40mph now 6-7seconds.
0-60mph now 10-11 seconds.

Much more go in 4th and 5th gears.
Much improved rolling acceleration.. ie 40-80mph

The only cars that it IS crap in are cars with turbos.
Because it doesnt work when the turbo kicks in.
Properly fitted it should work in all other cars. There
are two ways to fit it:

1. for better fuel economy
2. for improved performance

Mine was fitted at Automotive Solutions in Grimsby.

rt172 · Sep 19, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 18 September 2003

If you needed to get it fitted by an approved dealer its no wonder you think its great.

Its crap, end of.

Lol, even I fitted my own on my 1.4 16v, its that simple, and Im a mechanical disaster area.

It didnt do anything apart from go sccccccchhhhhluuuurrrrrrrrpppppppp alot. Which annoyed me. So I removed it!

Jon1978 · Sep 20, 2003

Well, Rhys, you have just proved my point exactly. You obviously didnt have a f**king clue how to fit it properly.

Mine makes no noticeable noise. At all. And the figures above prove its worth. It cost me £65 all fitted, and I have saved £hundreds on fuel.

scotty16v · Sep 20, 2003

thanks for the explanation jon.

real clash of opinions on this one a?

rt172 · Sep 20, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Jon1978 on 20 September 2003

Well, Rhys, you have just proved my point exactly. You obviously didnt have a f**king clue how to fit it properly

WTF?!?!?! You just cut the brake servo vacuum hose and install the Ecosh*te as close to the throttle body as possible, secured with a couple of jubillee clips. Thats it. If you have you pay someone to do that, then Id suggest that its you who "dont have a f**king clue". Jeezus.

And if it makes no noise, its not adjusted properly and not doing what its supposed to (which is not a lot apart from schhhhluuuuuuuuuurrrping).

Jon, while Im here, Ive got these great designer clothes you might be interested in. Theyre so light and finee you cant actually see them. Real quality stuff. You can have them for £500 if you want?

scotty16v · Sep 20, 2003

looks good on paper anyone else think they are any good?

rt172 · Sep 20, 2003

Scotty16v - Do a search over the last year on "Ecotek". Theres been loads written about it.

If you fancy a little mod like this, for just £42.50 I can sell you a Hyper-mega fuel hose technopaperclip. Its easy to fit, quieter than the Ecotek and does exactly the same job.

Rhys

Jon1978 · Sep 20, 2003

Well, my last words on the subject are:

1. There is no noise.
2. If, as Rhys suggests, there is no noise because it is
not working, then the change in fuel economy and acceleration must be magic.
3. I dont believe in magic.
4. Rhys uses big words - most of them made up - and clearly
has his head so far up his own arse, there is no light or room for others thoughts and ideas... what a tw*t!
5. Scotty, get one. Try it for 500miles or so. If it doesnt work, tell me, and also try the Ecotek PLC web forum.

rt172 · Sep 20, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Jon1978 on 20 September 2003

Well, my last words on the subject are:

1. There is no noise.

Sccccchhhhhluuuuuuurrrpppppppppp!

2. If, as Rhys suggests, there is no noise because it is
not working, then the change in fuel economy and acceleration must be magic.

Or a figment of your imagination...

3. I dont believe in magic.
4. Rhys uses big words - most of them made up - and clearly
has his head so far up his own arse, there is no light or room for others thoughts and ideas... what a tw*t!

Its not my problem if you dont understand "big words". Then again, you mentioned in another thread that youre a Copper, so it kind of makes sense....

Matty · Sep 20, 2003

Mine works and makes a noise unless I turn the valve off. Fuel consumption does suffer with it off so it obviously does do something.

I am running with it off since I last filled up to test this out again.

As to any performance gains, car does seem to pull smoother with it on. Without RRing or 1/4 milingwith it on and off I cant comment on any difference without recorded proof but it does "feel" better with it on.

As with any mod, each car is different and changes differ on each car.

jonnyboy · Sep 20, 2003

Wilderbeast.

White16valver · Sep 20, 2003

Bizarre.

Guess Ill never find out if it works anyway, what with running a turbo!

Simon172 · Sep 20, 2003

hahaha the emporer has spoken

Of course youre going to get better MPG if youre thinking about getting better MPG with something that says it gives you better MPG.

Why isnt it standard equipment for all economy-angled cars? or have ford, renault, peugeot, vw, vauxhall designers thought of this magical thing?

What a waste of £65 !

king.stromba · Sep 20, 2003

Can someone explain in simple terms what the theory behind this thing is? Whats the technical reason it is supposed to work and what is the technical reason it doesnt work?

Pete-W · Sep 20, 2003

gd shout king stromba! would like to know the low down in the theory of them working and y people say they dont!

v diff of opiion on this one!

Simon172 · Sep 21, 2003

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1064098741__search.jpg

rt172 · Sep 21, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Simon172 on 21 September 2003

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/file.php?image=1064098741__search.jpg

LMFAO

Fatherted · Sep 21, 2003

sorry Rhys.....i dont understand what your trying to suggest !!!

LMAO

well i personally think that ecotek valves do save fuel...not alot....(a tiny amount) but as for all the other claims.......crock of sh*t !!!

& the only way you will know for sure if it is saving you money is to have the car r/r road tested with & without valve.....guess work just isnt accurate !!!!

Jon1978 · Sep 21, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Simon172 on 20 September 2003

hahaha the emporer has spoken

Of course youre going to get better MPG if youre thinking about getting better MPG with something that says it gives you better MPG.

Why isnt it standard equipment for all economy-angled cars? or have ford, renault, peugeot, vw, vauxhall designers thought of this magical thing?

What a waste of £65 !

Well, Ford have something very similar fitted to all their cars now, and a lot of companies, Renault being one, acknowledge the virtues of the device. Anyway this is like teaching kids... talking to brick walls, and the such.

rt172 · Sep 21, 2003

Thought youd already had your last word on this matter!?

STICKER TWONK · Sep 22, 2003

As someone said earlier, explain how fitted some to a brake servo whatever, effects performance or fuel economy?

king.stromba · Sep 22, 2003

Search doesnt work, someone explain

RobFenn · Sep 22, 2003

Because those old threads have been archived i think.

Jon1978 im laughing my head off at your defence of this, didnt you do any research into the Ecotek before fitting it?

-Rob

RobFenn · Sep 22, 2003

ermm..ivan and nick read?!

http://www.ecotekplc.com/more_cars_16.htm http://www.ecotekplc.com/more_cars_16.htm

RobFenn · Sep 22, 2003

Finally! Found the thread..

http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=2&TopicID=15238&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=8 http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=2&TopicID=15238&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=8

-Rob

Jon1978 · Sep 22, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by RobFenn on 22 September 2003
Because those old threads have been archived i think.Jon1978 im laughing my head off at your defence of this, didnt you do any research into the Ecotek before fitting it? -Rob

Laugh away... I read up on Ecotek from several magazine articles online, Ecoteks own website, friends who had them fitted, spoke to mechanics, spoke to Renault. If you want it defending in a more professional manner than someone with a French degree and little mechanical knowledge can, then ring Automotive Solutions in Grimsby and ask them to explain: 01472 321939. You could also call Mal at Speeding, a shop in East Yorkshire (www.speeding.co.uk), and Larkspeed in Hull. K-Tec Racing also approve it for Renault use... I could go on. I can only defend it, in as far as my experience of it goes.

Jon1978 · Sep 22, 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Rhys on 21 September 2003
Thought youd already had your last word on this matter!?

Oh, sorry, didnt realise no one had the right the change their mind. Do you spend your whole time going out of your way to be unpleasant? What do you do for a living? Solicitor?

rt172 · Sep 22, 2003

Jon1978 - you were the one who called me a tw*t with my head up my arse. I think thats pretty damned unpleasant as all I did was disagree with you.

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