V6 3000 question

[cruisecontroller]

My Clio Cup 172 sport has 200bhp, it was like that when i bought it from a great guy in stirling 6 months ago. I have had so much fun in it, its like a wee go kart, i was wondering what bhp has the 3 litre V6.

 

[ifigureditout]

there was two versions one had 230bhp and the later one was 255bhp iirc

 

[kully]

you got your answer 230 bhp and 255 bhp , was it mk1 230 and mk2 255

 

[cat171]

Cruisecontroller - How has your car got 200bhp ?? Whats it had done to it ?

 

[cruisecontroller]

i dont know, but im meeting the x owner and will find out from him k

 

[cK]

ebay resistor

 

[Gareth]

k-tec sticker.

 

[cat171]

I was thinking LAD tbh.

Cruisecontroller - did you not want to ask them where the 200bhp came from ??
As that would be the first question on any ones mind.
Have you got any proof of it ??

 

[Gentleman John]

Why does a 24 valve 3 litre sports tuned engune only manage 230 or 255bhp? (I have a simple Laguna V6 that produces 210bhp). It seems disproportionately little extra compared to a 2 litre engine that produces 172 or 182bhp. Any insights?

 

[rory182]

its the same engine as your Laguna, effectively it's a Laguna driven into the back of a clio.

 

[trailerparktrev]

its the same engine as your Laguna, effectively it's a Laguna driven into the back of a clio.

With a Renault Master (van) gear box.

 

[cat171]

Gentleman John - have the coil packs ever gone on your Laguna ??
as I know the coils go quite often on the v6's.

 

[Fred@BTM]

lots of incorrect statements in this thread!

the V6 230 and 255 engines are both detuned (fairly substantially) from the approx 280bhp race engine i believe

until you've owned one (not test driven) IMO you can't really comment on their performace, in real world terms their alot quicker than people give them credit for

 

[BenR]

they are alot slower than i give them credit for.

 

[Fred@BTM]

you're the slowest thing i know!

 

[MarkCup]

Race engine, 280bhp, 3 litres, 93bhp/litre?

Not much is it?

There's a few NA road cars with higher relative (or is it specific?) outputs than that's got.

 

[BenR]

you're the slowest thing i know!

And the fastest thing you've come across.

 

[BenR]

Race engine, 280bhp, 3 litres, 93bhp/litre?

Not much is it?

There's a few NA road cars with higher relative (or is it specific?) outputs than that's got.

For the race series renault sport were pretty adamant that no human intervention should come into play duing the engine assembly, so its all robots basically. Its a pretty basic engine and the spec is not far off the road car.......it wasnt meant to make alot of power. We all know what would happen with that flippy floppy rear end if racers had alot of power.

 

[MarkCup]

Knowing what 1*2 engines come off the line like, I'd have thought automated process would have meant wide variations in power...or were they finished by hand?

Off topic slightly...is balancing a worthwhile effort Ben?

On something with 80k that might need some TLC?

 

[BenR]

The F4R engines come out of the factory pretty damn consistent tbh. They only carry on size of bearing shells so rotating and reciptrocating components are machined really well. Ports are CNC'd, cams are all equal, pistons only have very very small tolerance range.

All let down by the way they are run in on synthetic and the inlet manifold varience.

Oh, and and its always worth checking the balance for the sake of 10 mins work, but if its fine dont bother touching it.

 

[MarkCup]

Thanks Ben, makes sense now why the manifold rework delivers such good results.