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Valver Drivers - Question



  German Barge


what is the difference between a phase 1 and a phase 2 Clio 1.8 16V? Getting one next month, and started researching..

Thanks in advance
 
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Airbag, different seats, different rear lights, different plastic strips on the doors, the ph2 doesnt say "16v" on the back...erm im struggling now!

Apparently some of the early ones didnt have a Cat!

Pretty much the same car!
 
  Not a Clio


different mirrors - ph1 are flatish - ph2 are rounded
different grill under bonnet - ph1 has a double grill, ph2 a single more rounded one
ph1 had a seperate wiper jet on boot - ph2 has it built into wiper
 


My Valver is also a phase2 and it doesnt have any 16v badges on the back, only down the strips on the side.

Just says Renault and Clio on the back.

RHSSHAWNS BIRD
 
  Clio 182 w/ cup packs


Quote: Originally posted by aaronc on 14 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by Tom_16v on 14 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

the ph2 doesnt say "16v" on the back
It does......its a metal badge as opposed to to the ph1 plastic one.

No the Ph2 16v does NOT have 16v on the back anywhere. Its on both sides of the car


http://members.lycos.co.uk/aaronchap/car/5.jpg




Quite right!

Forgot about the mirros and grille though!
 
  German Barge


so cosmetic differences then mainly?

just im wondering which of the two to buy? Im looking for an M Reg Clio.
 

Daz.

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 200 RS EDC


That 16V badge looks like its off a Fiat! - Im sure its a Bravo 16v badge

Doesnt look too bad though!
 
  Clio 182 w/ cup packs


Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
 


Quote: Originally posted by Daz0rz on 14 September 2003

That 16V badge looks like its off a Fiat! - Im sure its a Bravo 16v badge
Doesnt look too bad though!
Cant say Ive ever not noticed it on other valvers.....theres a couple like mine around so Ill have a look at theirs.
 
  ExigeV6|Q5|DS3|Fiat


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
dont forget not all phs2 airbag were standard.
 


Dont they have different headlights as well???

I prefere the phase 1s. Some M regs come with a mix of phase 1 & 2 i think, change over year ( my mates is like that ne way)
 
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Quote: Originally posted by aaronc on 14 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
dont forget not all phs2 airbag were standard.
99.9% of them have them though! Ive never seen one without!
 


yep thats off a fiat for sure...

phase 1s look beefier than phase 2s.

very early phase 1s had renaultsport on the seats and some on the sills?

mines a late phase 2.... looks girly next to a phase 1.
 
  ExigeV6|Q5|DS3|Fiat


mine dont and i know a fair few others that havent either, from 95/96 they may have had them std.
 


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
Airbag? Nah - the phase 1 wheel looks and feels better (not gay looking!). Lets face it, if you have an accident in a valver, youll usually be going warp 9 so a airbag aint gonna make a difference!
 


Quote: Originally posted by u33db on 15 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
Airbag? Nah - the phase 1 wheel looks and feels better (not gay looking!). Lets face it, if you have an accident in a valver, youll usually be going warp 9 so a airbag aint gonna make a difference!
it migh stop your head poping on the stearing wheel
 


mine hasnt got one, which im glad of as they look w*nk

i prob wouldnt say that tho if i stuff it, as it will prob come in handy if i had one !

ps im sticking my neck out here, but i reckon toms 16v badge is off an escort mk5 !
 
  2004 Racing Blue 182


well ive got ph1 and my mate a ph2, and when they are sat next to each other, mine looks alot meaner but yeah as far as i know its just cosmetic!!!

dont some ph2s have white dials to???

-->BV
 


Right! Im THE Clio 16V geek, so print this off for your info Chris! as Im sure youll know, car ranges change a lot over time, but heres the 16V-specific basics:

Late 1991 to late(ish) 1992 (J to K-plate): Phase 1 Clio 16V introduced in UK. Was introduced earlier in Europe as the homologation car for Renaultsports Group A rally campaign (yes, that was the same category as the Integrale, Cossie etc!). Car has 137bhp 1764cc F7P engine as seen in 19 16V. Many differences over standard Clio, including flared arches (plastic front), bigger bumpers, bonnet bulge to allow clearance for inlet manifold and air vent for exhaust manifold. Very first UK batch came without a cat (like 500 cars tops). 16Vs from late 1991 to late 1992 came with an interior chequered with Renaultsports logo at the time and the logo was also found on the door tops, above the locks. All Phase 1 16Vs came with "Turbine" 15" polished alloys and thin bump strips all round. Badges read "16V" next to the side repeaters and on the boot next to "Clio". Leather interior is an option (with different 19 16V front seats, but in grey, not black). Very early cars also have a different alternator (mainly not sold in UK market). Pop-up manual sunroof.

Late 1992 to early 1994 (K to late L-plate): Standard interior changed from Renaultsport logo chequer to a kind of greeny/grey slashes effect. Some rare colours come and go during this time, including metallic green and ultra-rare Tungsten Grey. Now with electric tilt/slide sunroof.

March 1994 (late L-plate): Clio 16V gets Phase 2 treatment, in line with rest of range. No mechanical differences worthy of note, apart from soft five-spoke Speedline "Vega" 15" alloys. Phase 2 gets side impact bars and seatbelt pretensioners, but NO drivers airbag until later in 1994. Also bigger side bump strips (incorporating "16V" badge), reflective lower boot strip, clear front fog lights (Phase 1 are yellow), slimmer Valeo rear wiper, slightly bigger mirrors and a rounded front grille bar. Phase 2 front seats now based on 19 16V units, with grey velour material. Introducion of Naples Red metallic and deletion of older paint options.

September 1994 (early M-plate): Now with drivers airbag as standard. Monaco blue paint available (later also found on Williams 3). But dash-top and glove-box door now covered in slightly less quality and less padded material.

May 1995 (late M-plate): Optional CD player.

Early 1996 (N-plate): 16V discontinued. Introduction of Phase 3 Clio (still Mk1 though, but with more body changes).
 

Daz.

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 200 RS EDC


Quote: Originally posted by u33db on 15 September 2003


Quote: Originally posted by VoRN-182 on 14 September 2003

Yeah basically cosmetic! The only thing on them that really matters is the airbag imo, so try get a phase2!
Airbag? Nah - the phase 1 wheel looks and feels better (not gay looking!). Lets face it, if you have an accident in a valver, youll usually be going warp 9 so a airbag aint gonna make a difference!





Whats wrong with phase 2 wheels? Personally I dont ever wanna change em!
 
  mk1 naples 16v turbo


what body changes were on a phase 3?coz mines an n plate and it looks the sane as my mates phase 1,well the body anyway!
 


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