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Want higher revs at idle
- Thread starter Joepster
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Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Out of curiosity, why do you want a higher idle?
Just a bit: my car pops out of third gear under heavy braking on the track. Really tried everything.
Under hard braking the rpm's fall back very quick and it makes the engine stumble a bit (I think).
Maybe the stumbling makes it kick the third gear out.
So i was wondering if the higher idle will prevent the kick out.
Under hard braking the rpm's fall back very quick and it makes the engine stumble a bit (I think).
Maybe the stumbling makes it kick the third gear out.
So i was wondering if the higher idle will prevent the kick out.
Dom_capper
ClioSport Club Member
2012 Renault Clio
Learn how to heel toe so you can hold the revs under heavy braking?
Ol’ Tarby
ClioSport Moderator
Clio 220 Trophy
No mate it's fixed.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
I don't have ABS (anymore) on my car.
I don't heel and toe. Never tried it. Could be the solution ... ...
I do brake on the engine.
On the Ring you have to brake really hard in third gear. The cars revs from all the way up to all the way down real quick. That's when it pops out. So, it pops out before i can release the brake pedal to go to the brake pedal (to engage second gear for instance). Most of the times you just want it to stay in third.
I don't heel and toe. Never tried it. Could be the solution ... ...
I do brake on the engine.
On the Ring you have to brake really hard in third gear. The cars revs from all the way up to all the way down real quick. That's when it pops out. So, it pops out before i can release the brake pedal to go to the brake pedal (to engage second gear for instance). Most of the times you just want it to stay in third.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
You need to be checking your engine and gearbox mounts along with the dogbone mount/bushes.
If they all check out good it's an internal box issue.
@NorthloopCup: That's what a thought but both have been checked.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Well there's only a few things that'll make it jump out of gear mate - excessive movement, incorrect linkage adjustment or the gear retainers in the box.
@NorthloopCup: you're right, I know ... ...
Engine movement should be visible when revving at standstill?
What's the best way to check for the right linkage setting?
Any idea how to check if the retainers are the problem?
Thanxs for your answers. Really helps me.
Engine movement should be visible when revving at standstill?
What's the best way to check for the right linkage setting?
Any idea how to check if the retainers are the problem?
Thanxs for your answers. Really helps me.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
Grab the back of the inlet manifold and try to pull it towards you as hard as you can mate. Look out for any movement.
Gear linkage is a doubtful one tbh unless you've moved it at all recently? If not, discount it, but check the linkage for free play at the gearbox end from underneath.
Retainers are only check able with the box open. Could also be the 3rd/4th gear selector fork worn.
I'm assuming you ain't uk based?
No, I live in The Netherlands.
I have checked the movement of the engine. Rock solid. All KTEC mounts en bushes. No movement at all.
The Retainers and Forks have all been revised by a Renault Sport Specialist. When the problem occurred he first checked to box by opening it. No problems found. When the problem stayed again he mounted another revised and strengthened box. Still the same ... ...
Really cannot figure it out. The pop out only happens on track when its hot.
Its driving me nuts and its very dangerous when you lose gears in a corner ... ...
I have checked the movement of the engine. Rock solid. All KTEC mounts en bushes. No movement at all.
The Retainers and Forks have all been revised by a Renault Sport Specialist. When the problem occurred he first checked to box by opening it. No problems found. When the problem stayed again he mounted another revised and strengthened box. Still the same ... ...
Really cannot figure it out. The pop out only happens on track when its hot.
Its driving me nuts and its very dangerous when you lose gears in a corner ... ...
leeds2592
ClioSport Club Member
Bean 182 + E70 X5
Without hijacking the thread, I've got a similar sort of problem on my 182.
It's quite hard to explain but when changing from 1st to 2nd, sometimes it kind of pops out when you are just moving it out of 1st. Heard of something like this before? I've got a modified scenic shifter from Ash-B on here and had that on a while but only noticed this recently. Changed gearbox oil about a month ago with Elf NJF or whatever it is and polybushed the dogbone but that's it.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
It could be the retainer for the selector hub has worn/lost its tension mate. There isn't really much else it could be tbh.
leeds2592
ClioSport Club Member
Bean 182 + E70 X5
It's weird cos it doesn't do it all the time and tbh it isn't the worse thing in the world, it just bugs me a bit. If it was the retainer, what's involved with sorting it? Big job? Noticed a leak from the gear selector but, from research, this seems pretty normal.
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