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thanks guys lol Dont think the bin men would be happy if i put them in the bin... because the car is on a slope, the kit doesnt look too low, but the problem i have is, when i go over speed bumps, i have to be carefull coz it scrapes... so cant lower it with the kit on, which is why id rather get 16 or 17 inch alloys... and then lower it if you get me get paid every week thank god but obviously i have to pay insurance and rent and the finance etc... so cant really splash out