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Which alarm with intellistart?
- Thread starter Paddy_g46
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Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
bum! so the shop cant give me a cat 1 certificate with intellistart?what if they fit a cat 1 alarm that has the option of adding intellistart at a later date
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
it will be on my private land :rasp: i want to be able 2 start the engine in the morning from my window when i wake up so as that by the time iv had a shower and got dressed the engine is nice and warm!
lol
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
pmsl! i wonder if you actually did it what would happen to you lol
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
what make is that mate?
Carrera 4S. Clio 172. M5
The Clifford concept 650 is an insurance approved alarm if it is fitted by a VSIB certified installer. It does not have a remote start as standard.
Check the Clifford site.
http://www.cliffordalarms.co.uk/acatalog/Insurance_Approved_Thatcham_Category_I_Alarms.html
By adding the Clifford Intelistart the Thatcham approval is negated.
Check the Clifford site.
http://www.cliffordalarms.co.uk/acatalog/Insurance_Approved_Thatcham_Category_I_Alarms.html
By adding the Clifford Intelistart the Thatcham approval is negated.
Where does it say this?
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Its the same with a Scottish Person within the walls of York isn't it?
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
thats gonna work out at £500! is there no cheaper options? do toad do intellistart?
Carrera 4S. Clio 172. M5
The Thatcham class one specification has certain parameters that must be met in order for a device to qualify.
Alarm must have-
Perimeter detection
Ignition detection
Passenger compartment movement detection
Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
Immobiliser must -
Passively set
Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention.
The installation by an VSIB authorised and trained installer is part of the certification process.
The VSIB certificate provided covers the required alarm and immobiliser and nothing else.
As remote start devices are illegal if used on a public road or on private property to which the public have a right of access (supermarket car park for instance) most insurers will not accept the fitting of these devices as it is not part of a Thatcham spec. security system.
Its up to you if you declare the fitting or not, but the point is if you do your insurers are well within their rights to decline to insure you and if you don't declare and you are found to have such a device, they might reject any claim.
Its not about what you have done, or the risks you are prepared to take, its about an honest answer to the original post and its up to Patrick to make his own mind up or check with his insurers.
Your mail was presumably to the installers, hardly likely they will own up having taken your money, try sending the same question to your insurers!
Alarm must have-
Perimeter detection
Ignition detection
Passenger compartment movement detection
Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
Immobiliser must -
Passively set
Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention.
The installation by an VSIB authorised and trained installer is part of the certification process.
The VSIB certificate provided covers the required alarm and immobiliser and nothing else.
As remote start devices are illegal if used on a public road or on private property to which the public have a right of access (supermarket car park for instance) most insurers will not accept the fitting of these devices as it is not part of a Thatcham spec. security system.
Its up to you if you declare the fitting or not, but the point is if you do your insurers are well within their rights to decline to insure you and if you don't declare and you are found to have such a device, they might reject any claim.
Its not about what you have done, or the risks you are prepared to take, its about an honest answer to the original post and its up to Patrick to make his own mind up or check with his insurers.
Your mail was presumably to the installers, hardly likely they will own up having taken your money, try sending the same question to your insurers!
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
Bryan, where have you got the information that these devices (intellistart) are not Thatcham insurance approved? or are deemed not Category 1?
intellistart is £180, the cheapest alarm is £250
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
Paddy_g46
ClioSport Club Member
http://www.cliffordalarms.co.uk/acatalog/Clifford_G5_Car_Alarms_UK.html
is the alarm at the top of that link a cat 1???
is the alarm at the top of that link a cat 1???
I've got a Viper 480 XV very happy with a nice two-way shizzel going on
No the Arrow G5 is not Cat 1, i know beacuse i nearly mad ethe mistake of buying it!
Did you tell your insurance about intellistart?
GOLF GT TDI
i got a clifford 950 intellegart not cheap but does everthing, total auto closure (close windows etc), can turn lights on by the remote, open boot, start car, proximity alart, tilt sensor, glass break sensor plus a few other bits, its a cat 1 as well, also got a clifford tracker fitted as well
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I use mine every ware and any ware, pure gimmick i know. but have you every heard of anyone getting done for it? all this "its illegal, you cant do that" nonsense, you cant speed, but who doesn't, if people have a problem with anyone using such technology, then refer to other important laws and abide by them...
· All English males over the age 14 are to carry out 2 or so hours of longbow practice a week supervised by the local clergy.
York
· Excluding Sundays, it is perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow
Liverpool
· It is illegal for a woman to be topless in public except as a clerk in a tropical fish store, or in a bank if handling foreign currency.
Scotland:
. It is illegal to be a drunk in possession of a cow.
· All English males over the age 14 are to carry out 2 or so hours of longbow practice a week supervised by the local clergy.
York
· Excluding Sundays, it is perfectly legal to shoot a Scotsman with a bow and arrow
Liverpool
· It is illegal for a woman to be topless in public except as a clerk in a tropical fish store, or in a bank if handling foreign currency.
Scotland:
. It is illegal to be a drunk in possession of a cow.
Tried PMing you.
Just need to know how you know of this, sources etc>
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megane 225
ill ask one of my good mates who is an engineer for clifford. i know toad do a remote start but apparently its poo.
The clifford is by far the best to go for. You need to remember that because the clio has a built in immobiliser (transponder in the key) this will need to be bypassed in order for the remote start to fuction correctly.
This could possibly be why some people say it invildates insurance. I think you can hook it up so it switches off if the handbrake is released and the key isnt present.
The clifford is by far the best to go for. You need to remember that because the clio has a built in immobiliser (transponder in the key) this will need to be bypassed in order for the remote start to fuction correctly.
This could possibly be why some people say it invildates insurance. I think you can hook it up so it switches off if the handbrake is released and the key isnt present.
K
kunit
the sources are stated by thatcham and having once been an alarm fitter romote start invalidates cat 1 status, i wanted to fit one to my Escort turbo when i was a boy racer like the rest of you with remote start and was informed of the rules by our supplier. the vehicle cant be running without you being there also during running voltage sensors are innop ultrasonics are innop etc and cat 1 is out the window also its a bit max power if you havent already got it but are thinking of it do yourself a favour wait till youve grown up and you wont feel the need to the rest of the children HOPE YOU LEAVE IT IN GEAR!
thanks chris
thanks chris
