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Why are 17s not a good idea , anybody ??
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17s are cheaper for the same tyre type?
I've had 17s 16s and 15s on the Clio
17s are too big, rub and give a s**te crashy ride.
16s are an ideal compromise between ride and handling. But are expensive for tyres.
15s have more sidewall flex and better ride and cheaper tyres.
...I have 17s on the S4 however, with sensible 45 profile tyres they're fine.
17s are too big, rub and give a s**te crashy ride.
16s are an ideal compromise between ride and handling. But are expensive for tyres.
15s have more sidewall flex and better ride and cheaper tyres.
...I have 17s on the S4 however, with sensible 45 profile tyres they're fine.
Often the case as its a more common size.
I knew that...but I'd have thought the 45 profiles would have been more common what with 40 being a 'proper' low profile side wall?
205/40/17 have always been fairly cheap IME, varies from brand to brand though.
205/45/16 isnt particularly a common size.
195/50/15 will normally be cheaper than both by a reasonable margin.
furry muff, I can only go with my own experiences...215x40x17s on the wagon have always been a premium but I guess that's down to the 215 rather than the 40
with a car like the 1*2 cost is the least important factor...all about the driving experiecne imho
17's do not rub if fitted with the correct offset! and do not give a so called 'crashy ride'
I do LOL at this if 17's rub on your 1*2 then something is wrong and its not the wheel size....
Your tyre size is slightly bigger than 16" tyres for a clio, and a fair bit bigger than 15", so if its a lowered car, especially if its got the extra caster arms, it will rub more easily with your tyre size than with the 16 and especially the 15.
all down to what car they are going on and how high it is etc though.
Fiesta ST2 MP215
^ Well that's exactly the problem not all 17's are the same size, buying random 17's out of the back of Revs magazine like so many back in the day encountered exactly that, to the point where garages had arch rollers readily available, Rule of thumb however was also was to get the skinniest wheels you could afford with the biggest diameter to look boss like, we all remember the days of Saxos on 19's.
yeah I agree with that just things on CS sometimes get taken as general facts
i.e 17's look gash, 17's wont fit, 17's wreck arch liners, 17's are expensive, 17's handle crap etc.
of course 17's are 'more likely to rub' yes its common sense. But a normal 1*2 you can lower it and 17's will be fine
i.e 17's look gash, 17's wont fit, 17's wreck arch liners, 17's are expensive, 17's handle crap etc.
of course 17's are 'more likely to rub' yes its common sense. But a normal 1*2 you can lower it and 17's will be fine
I remember those days...
my 'random' wheels came from Wheelbase, get the correct fitment, offset etc. and Bobs your uncle
of course buying random 17's off e bay is asking for trouble
TO be totally un-clio about it
I had 16s on Listerine.
Then I got a job and bolted on some Enkei 15s
and not only is every tyre £30 cheaper, but 1/2 the rattles of the car have gone.
there's no need for big wheels unless you're proper sik baller. Even F1 doesn't use 17s FFS, and they know a good sight more about going quickly than a shopping hatch
EDIT: Highly expecting this post to get pulled for lack of bummage to the Clio
I had 16s on Listerine.
Then I got a job and bolted on some Enkei 15s
and not only is every tyre £30 cheaper, but 1/2 the rattles of the car have gone.
there's no need for big wheels unless you're proper sik baller. Even F1 doesn't use 17s FFS, and they know a good sight more about going quickly than a shopping hatch
EDIT: Highly expecting this post to get pulled for lack of bummage to the Clio
F1 is a crap example, as they have specifically been told in the rules Section 12.4.4 that they have to be 358mm outer rim diameter. And they are very light, and have much wider tyres as well, its a totally different scenario and utterly of no use for comparison.
If they had more choice they would quite possibly go bigger, and they definitely would if they had choice on brake size too!
If they had more choice they would quite possibly go bigger, and they definitely would if they had choice on brake size too!
Oh right, thanks for the correction, I must have misread the bit where they are allowed 18s, thanks for correcting me.
So easy to misread things when there is contrasting info:
Sorry Goodj, you're wrong on that one. If you look at most GT/touring car classes where rim size is not so restricted you'll find they use huge ones.
As I said in my earlier detailed post, they are better for grip on smooth prepared surfaces but provide less feedback and aren't as good on rougher surfaces.
As I said in my earlier detailed post, they are better for grip on smooth prepared surfaces but provide less feedback and aren't as good on rougher surfaces.
Although they go big, they dont do so with very tiny small sidewalls generally, normally they will have the 4" or so that you get on the Clio 172 with 195/50/15 tyres.
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davo172
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17s on your ST arnt they ?
Yeah on the ST fiesta, ford pimped it up to 205/40/17
I suspect they would also handle better on a 205/45/16 though, but marketing depts love big wheels too, lol.
so now I better compare my road going Clio to an F1 car........ 17's is hardly 'big wheels' and am I bothered about speed on a road car? nope!
also on that front BTCC cars use 18's and the S-2000 use an older 17 inch wheel
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so now I better compare my road going Clio to an F1 car........ 17's is hardly 'big wheels' and am I bothered about speed on a road car? nope!
also on that front BTCC cars use 18's and the S-2000 use an older 17 inch wheel
Using race cars as an analogy sucks; they are designed for tracks which are -generally- smoother environments...it's not speed it's about compliance, feedback and dressing appropriately for the conditions i.e. our crap roads...that is all assuming the drive is more important than running huge rims
1.2 172 conversion
Have 17s on my clio with the 172 in it and i have no problems arch liners are fine dropped 60mm aswell
1.2 172 conversion
Was taken a week ago after i finished the conversion
1.2 172 conversion
And cleaning it out
how is the NVH?
1.2 172 conversion
Nvh ?
davo172
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TCR'd 172
Your wrong ! if you are correct then you 17s had the wrong offset !
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and it f***s up the way it drives?
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How?
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I have but it still doesn't say how it f**ks up the way it drives
tramlining, camber chasing and a substantial increase in NVH
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