I've got a valver,Just out of interest, is anyone else keeping there car off the road through winter or am i the only sad one? gonna buy a cheap diesel to run round in and save my money. I've just had the arches done and its mint so i don't wanna ruin it. plus this way i'll save loads of money to buy bits. that way when it comes out in the sun next year it'll be completely different to the car i put away in the first place
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Winter=Rust
- Thread starter tim16v
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Luckily my brothers sellin his van so i think i'll get that cheap, i used a motorbike all winter a couple of years back and hosed it off everytime i used it and that didn't rust. I'm ashamed to say it but i had a nova last year and used that but it wrecked that, but then again it is a nova and deserved everythin it got
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It's impossible for me not to use my car so much in winter, so in my case there's no difference between winters and summer. Notice that in Poland, where I live, the winters are harsh in comparison to British winters.
Anyway, I don't use the garage at all and I don't drive less during winters, my clio has 11 years now and it always starts with no problems, and it looks good for a car of it's "age"
Anyway, I don't use the garage at all and I don't drive less during winters, my clio has 11 years now and it always starts with no problems, and it looks good for a car of it's "age"
Its all pretty much the same stuff. The aerosol cans are generally the easiest (and probably cheapest way for doing one car). Helps if you can get it up on a ramp or something, i normally give my local garage £5 for letting me put my cars up on the ramp for 10 mins to get under it and spray everything..... try to avoid getting it on the exhaust though as gives a bit of a nasty smell when it burns off!
Take the rear door cards off. Paint the insides of the arches with high quality zinc paint. It is impossible for any steel covered in zinc to rust.
Waxoyl is rubbish compared to zinc paint. It will only protect the metal because it prevent the oxygen or water reaching the metal (to make rust you have to have oxygen, water and iron). When the waxoyl dries out or is scratched off the rust will start again. Zinc protects the metal that is painted, even if you only paint it on one side of the metal. Drop a nail half painted in zinc paint in a jar of salt water and the other end wont rust. You need a high quality zinc paint though. Something like galvafroid.
Magnesium work better than zinc but is harder to find. Ever wondered why outboard motors dont rust despite being in salt water all day? They use zinc to protect the steel. Ever wondered why oil rigs dont rust despite being submerged in the sea for years? They use magnesium to protect the steel struts.
Waxoyl is rubbish compared to zinc paint. It will only protect the metal because it prevent the oxygen or water reaching the metal (to make rust you have to have oxygen, water and iron). When the waxoyl dries out or is scratched off the rust will start again. Zinc protects the metal that is painted, even if you only paint it on one side of the metal. Drop a nail half painted in zinc paint in a jar of salt water and the other end wont rust. You need a high quality zinc paint though. Something like galvafroid.
Magnesium work better than zinc but is harder to find. Ever wondered why outboard motors dont rust despite being in salt water all day? They use zinc to protect the steel. Ever wondered why oil rigs dont rust despite being submerged in the sea for years? They use magnesium to protect the steel struts.
Thats the mistake everyone makes. Rust on the 16v starts from the inside and works its way out. The only way to stop it is to treat the inside.
It works like this. Water gets through the arch or drips down from the window. Water forms on the inside of the arch. Those cars with inadequate factory wax (most) start to rust on the inside. The rust works its way through the metal to the outside. Bubbles appear. Voila.
Thats why cutting out arches doesn nothing to stop rust as people dont understand where it comes from. Unless you treat the inside it will come back.
It works like this. Water gets through the arch or drips down from the window. Water forms on the inside of the arch. Those cars with inadequate factory wax (most) start to rust on the inside. The rust works its way through the metal to the outside. Bubbles appear. Voila.
Thats why cutting out arches doesn nothing to stop rust as people dont understand where it comes from. Unless you treat the inside it will come back.
