Poopensharten
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Im serious when i say, how do i change it to maximum posts per page?
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Winter Tyres
- Thread starter Englebert
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Poopensharten
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Golf R
Cheers guys! 
Poopensharten
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Golf R
I found my gf's Pug 107 was absolutley no bother in the snow with its really skinny tyres, seemed to cope just fine!
It would be interesting to see some real independent scientific research showing whether they're worth while or not for UK conditions.
Personally I doubt it is cold enough for long enough for them to be worth it statistically, especially in the South.
Personally I doubt it is cold enough for long enough for them to be worth it statistically, especially in the South.
SRS?
Firstly, the evidence is readily available all over the internet. Secondly, do you think tyre manufacturers design winter variants for a laugh?
LOL at that video. Anyone still not convinced after seeing that needs their head read.
I'm talking about not whether the tyres are better in the right conditions but whether those conditions are present for long enough in this country to make it worthwhile.
Tyre manufacturers make tyres to make money, not because they want to save the world. There is a lot of hype about winter tyres but very little evidence about reductions in accident numbers.
All that looks at is that winter tyres are better in the right conditions. It doesn't look at whether those conditions are dominant for long enough in the UK for it to be worthwhile or whether they lead to a significant reduction in accidents.
Them being safer doesn't necessarily mean there are less accidents or serious injuries. With things like this you can get weird effects statistically like people don't slow down as much in bad whether because they know have winter tyres.
Is it really wet and/or less than 7 degrees often enough? That's what I'd like to see an analysis of?
SC03OTT
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Golf GTI
Average temp for the UK for winter (Jan, Feb) is 3.8°C from 1910 - 2010.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/actualmonthly/
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/actualmonthly/
You can't allow for retardedness mate if they drive quicker in the conditions they deserve to crash. Same with 4x4 drivers. They seem to think their 4x4 system helps brake better in 6 inches of snow.
It is more complicated than that though. You would need to look at temperatures during rush hour (or whenever most driving is done) rather than over the whole day. You would also probably want to look at the modal average rather than the mean.
It doesn't matter what temperature it is. In the morning it's cold and frosty in the depths of winter even without snow, therefore winter tyre > summer tyres.
Far south you might never need them. I stay in Scotland. It's been frosty since the middle of November. I also mwork in the Body Repair Industry and I can tell you winter tyres are always a better option.
You can analyse statistics all day long, it won't change the fact that they are designed for winter. They work. I have first hand experience, and they appear to defy the laws of physics. Who cares if there are less accidents or more accidents due to the use of winter tyres? Such numbers would be impossible to quantify anyway.
Keith185
ClioSport Club Member
Are you on crack? Lol. Do you own a jacket or are you holding off pending a detailed report from the met office and then comparing it with a chart plotting when you're likely to leave the house?
The point is you don't really know whether your winter tyres are really worthwhile or not. You just think you know.
You don't have any evidence other than winter tyres work better in cold temps, standing water, snow etc. You don't know whether you encounter enough of those conditions to make your tyres worthwhile or whether you're really actually putting yourselves and others at risk, except when we have extreme weather.
But I can see you and Roy have now moved to abuse rather than discussion.
They might not be super effective on snow, but you'll at least still be benefitting from the softer compound. Definitely better than any premium summer tyre.
When you think about it, you don't actually know if the R888s would cause anymore accidents during the winter. I mean where are the statistics showing deaths related to using slick tyres on snow?
